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    I hate N types and their stupid sense of elitist intellectualism! The sensors will one day rise to oppose them all as they will emerge all the more powerfully and triumphantly from the suppression.

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    Well, just speaking for myself...I can definitely say that I'm a lot stupider than the people here. Apparently many of you have PhD's too! I tend to feel smarter than the general public, though.

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    Depends about what you're definition of intelligence is; 'street smart' versus 'book smart' is one thing--real intelligence is another. I'll give one definition I found on wikipedia as it generally describes 'intelligence' as it's commonly understood:
    A very general mental capability that, among other things, involves the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly and learn from experience. It is not merely book learning, a narrow academic skill, or test-taking smarts. Rather, it reflects a broader and deeper capability for comprehending our surroundings—"catching on," "making sense" of things, or "figuring out" what to do.
    I believe it sounds more N-like than S-like.

    Or, for an example, compare my brother--ESTJ--and I--certainly an N type, not sure what type, but INTP seems the most sensible at the moment. When he does math, it takes him a while before he understands, or he practices one concept over and over until it's ingrained in his head. For me, everything just connects--maybe not at first, but, surely, soon enough, it snaps and I don't need practice. My N function is a lot more favourable to me than other schoolmates of mine: they will study for hours on end for a test, while I won't even bother to open the book as the theory already makes sense to me, and my mark is higher than that of the majority.

    In conclusion, while an xNxx is not more intelligent than an xSxx, the N function certainly helps a lot more at making connections and making learning and understanding easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zelo1954 View Post
    This is a large thread and my apologies for not having read through it. I do however say two things to the original poster - and I cannot stress these enough

    • N types are more intellectual than S types
    • Intellect and intelligence *** are not the same thing ***


    Intellect is about understanding complex concepts. S types couldn't be less interested in such things. Intelligence is about surviving in this world of ours. I suspect S types trump N types here.
    An intellectual is a person who has discovered something more interesting than sex.

    This quote seemed apt
    For all that we have done, as a civilization, as individuals, the universe is not stable, and nor is any single thing within it. Stars consume themselves, the universe itself rushes apart, and we ourselves are composed of matter in constant flux. Colonies of cells in temporary alliance, replicating and decaying and housed within, an incandescent cloud of electrical impulses. This is reality, this is self knowledge, and the perception of it will, of course, make you dizzy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SD45T-2 View Post
    Someone said something stupid on the internet? I'm shocked!

    You're just jealous of my mad logistics skillz.
    Only geniuses are capable of operating complex cumputerized machinery of epic sophistication and intricacy, so of course only the most intelligent people in the world will be here!

    DUUUUURRRR LOLOLOL I IS GOING TO POST A COMMENT ON YOUTUBE,

    If people came from monkeys, then why didn't all the monkeys become people!? I gotcha you evolutionist!

    Screw the Internet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelo1954 View Post
    This is a large thread and my apologies for not having read through it. I do however say two things to the original poster - and I cannot stress these enough

    • N types are more intellectual than S types
    • Intellect and intelligence *** are not the same thing ***


    Intellect is about understanding complex concepts. S types couldn't be less interested in such things. Intelligence is about surviving in this world of ours. I suspect S types trump N types here.
    Where did you get your definitions from?

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    I wouldn't think very much of the guy who wrote the initial article. I have read that he is an INFJ and yet despite this believes feelers think using emotions!

    I do enjoy N vs S arguments because it gives us the opportunity to be the villain. Plus I have found most sensors are like sitting ducks as their general lesser proficiency for analogies or metaphors leaves them completely open to mockery which they are unfortunately completely unaware of. It is always funny to insult in this way.

    As for me, I can't help but look down on sensors who fail to see the connections and grasp the bigger picture. For one the universe is one huge gigantic interconnected system and IMO control of the human populace should be in the hands of those who have a pre-disposition towards seeing how it connects. How many mistakes throughout history have been made by sensors who thought they knew best?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standuble View Post
    I wouldn't think very much of the guy who wrote the initial article. I have read that he is an INFJ and yet despite this believes feelers think using emotions!

    I do enjoy N vs S arguments because it gives us the opportunity to be the villain. Plus I have found most sensors are like sitting ducks as their general lesser proficiency for analogies or metaphors leaves them completely open to mockery which they are unfortunately completely unaware of. It is always funny to insult in this way.

    As for me, I can't help but look down on sensors who fail to see the connections and grasp the bigger picture. For one the universe is one huge gigantic interconnected system and IMO control of the human populace should be in the hands of those who have a pre-disposition towards seeing how it connects. How many mistakes throughout history have been made by sensors who thought they knew best?
    I am a sensor, so I can't be sure you aren't joking, but... I find it strangely anti-type to see such a sense of superiority and have it so densely packed in so few words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standuble View Post
    I wouldn't think very much of the guy who wrote the initial article. I have read that he is an INFJ and yet despite this believes feelers think using emotions!

    I do enjoy N vs S arguments because it gives us the opportunity to be the villain. Plus I have found most sensors are like sitting ducks as their general lesser proficiency for analogies or metaphors leaves them completely open to mockery which they are unfortunately completely unaware of. It is always funny to insult in this way.

    As for me, I can't help but look down on sensors who fail to see the connections and grasp the bigger picture. For one the universe is one huge gigantic interconnected system and IMO control of the human populace should be in the hands of those who have a pre-disposition towards seeing how it connects. How many mistakes throughout history have been made by sensors who thought they knew best?
    But this is where the problem lies in the usage of MBTI. However I am not saying you are incorrect because this is your perception and it would not be fair of me to state that mine is somehow more accurate.

    But there is a danger in the assumptions that can arise through certain biases. For example what is 'the big picture'? For each individual it can be defined differently. For many it may indeed be the consideration of the known universe('s), but while this encompasses a whole slew of entertaining thoughts on the nature of existance and purpose most will never put that to some use.

    Not to say that if something is not of use that it should not be mused over and enjoyed, but many will consider such things, then put them aside for immediate big picture ideas. Like continents and countries. Then down to cities and towns and streets.....and families.

    And companies and shops and...many many other things. When people disagree for example each can be missing the other's picture and both may consider the other to be the one missing the big picture.

    Im not even sure what the term means anymore, especially in terms of MBTI.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standuble View Post
    I wouldn't think very much of the guy who wrote the initial article. I have read that he is an INFJ and yet despite this believes feelers think using emotions!

    I do enjoy N vs S arguments because it gives us the opportunity to be the villain. Plus I have found most sensors are like sitting ducks as their general lesser proficiency for analogies or metaphors leaves them completely open to mockery which they are unfortunately completely unaware of. It is always funny to insult in this way.

    As for me, I can't help but look down on sensors who fail to see the connections and grasp the bigger picture. For one the universe is one huge gigantic interconnected system and IMO control of the human populace should be in the hands of those who have a pre-disposition towards seeing how it connects. How many mistakes throughout history have been made by sensors who thought they knew best?

    Try it. I've been wanting to test out my sense-fueled guerrilla tactics

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