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    Default Fe and Te?

    I have been reading some of the things said on this forum, and that has raised some doubts and question in my mind.
    I am getting confused about Fe.
    People were saying, its mostly 'fake', a lie. Its just to accommodate the other person/group by playing chameleon. This is making me paranoid! Its making me feel Fe is insincere! How do I believe a person who is Fe? Is it what they're actually feeling, or is it just some big show?
    Maybe I dont know enough about this theory, therefore arriving at wrong judgment. Feel free to correct me please.
    Also, how does the Te work?
    Thank you

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    They are extraverted judging functions. People use those to act based on objective (external) standards as opposed to their own subjective (personal) ones.

    That's my novice explanation. Bluewing should have you covered on the rest.

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    As Dana said the extroverted judging functions are merely reacting to situations based on external standards. In the case of Fe, there are socially defined "acceptable" and "unacceptable" behavior.

    The baseline rule of "being nice to people" results in a lot of chameleon behavior. Going back to chameleon as being fake... whose standard are you using here? The Ti dominant?

    Would you call the chameleon, or the squid, octopus fake for being able to adapt to blend into the environment?

    It seems Ti distrusts Fe... just as Fi distrusts Te.

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    Fi vs. Fe, got it.

    Ti vs. Te, huh???
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    Allow me to quote myself...

    It seems Ti distrusts Fe... just as Fi distrusts Te.
    As in Ti finds Te a little strange, but tolerable since it can see the logic Te uses (although it does not agree with the method). However Ti does not understand how Fe can "arbitrary" come up with decisions. Decisions that seems inconsistent as it changes from case to case.

    Same goes for Fi with Fe... and Fi with Te.

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    all judging functions are deductive.

    Te assumes that the outer world is most important
    Fe assumes that feelings about the outer world are most important
    Ti assumes, well, nothing
    Fi assumes feelings are most important

    they all factor in the above premises and the information they get from perceiving functions and make deductions.

    anyone have thoughts on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dissonance View Post
    anyone have thoughts on that?
    Seems about correct to me..
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    Fi makes judgments based on an internal code of values.

    Fe, on an external code of values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dissonance View Post
    Ti assumes, well, nothing
    Actually, we just assume that at some level, the world makes sense, and we just have to figure out how.

    ... or... well... maybe not at all. *sigh*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    Fi makes judgments based on an internal code of values.

    Fe, on an external code of values.
    So, could that in some way mean that people with dominate Fi are "be-ers" and people with dominate Fe are "do-ers"?

    Sorry if that sounded ignorant. I have had trouble completely understanding the different mindsets of Fi and Fe.
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