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    Default intuition explained, short and simple

    intuition is a perception by intermediate links and you only get the results of that whole chain of associations to your conscious mind in forms of instincts, metaphors or symbols, thus it is an perception via unconscious.

    Ni sets the links between things according to how something fits his own subjective view of things(subjective impressions of collective symbols, impressions of relations between extraverted sensations, personal judgments or personal impressions of judgments of others). Ne sets the links according to objective factor, how things have been before and what seems plausible according to the things that have been before(comparing links of Si data points to understand the big picture of external world).
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    sounds pretty good. can't even find anything to nitpick

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    Ni and Ne alike are the ultimate magical mind powers of the mystical, but I don't know what I am talking about.

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    I may have got this wrong, (and im a bit too lazy and tired this morning to look it up), but from what I understood of Jung from his Psy Types book, it is about trusting your speculations over your sensual realities, but in any case your description seemed very good.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

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    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    I may have got this wrong, (and im a bit too lazy and tired this morning to look it up), but from what I understood of Jung from his Psy Types book, it is about trusting your speculations over your sensual realities, but in any case your description seemed very good.
    you are mixing intuition as a function to intuitive type. intuitive type trusts his intuitive perceptions more than sensing perceptions. functions doesent trust anything, they just perceive/judge according to rules of whatiexplainedaboutintuition(N)/fact(S)/reason(T)/value(F), its the ego that either trusts or doesent, ego of N dom naturally trusts N more than S, ego of T dom naturally trusts T over F etc.

    also intuition is not about speculation
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    you are mixing intuition as a function to intuitive type. intuitive type trusts his intuitive perceptions more than sensing perceptions. functions doesent trust anything, they just perceive/judge according to rules of whatiexplainedaboutintuition(N)/fact(S)/reason(T)/value(F), its the ego that either trusts or doesent, ego of N dom naturally trusts N more than S, ego of T dom naturally trusts T over F etc.

    also intuition is not about speculation
    This is true. Cognition first.

    Although I disagree about intuition not being about speculation, speculation plays a huge part. Yes it uses existing data but it always fills in the gaps with leaps of what is likely. People think speculation is usually negative, but it really isn't, or rather it isn't necessarily so.

    Incidentally im tying this into intuition in general not just strong intuition as in the Intuitive types.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

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    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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    Thanks - this definitely sounds familiar for the way I experience Ni!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    This is true. Cognition first.

    Although I disagree about intuition not being about speculation, speculation plays a huge part. Yes it uses existing data but it always fills in the gaps with leaps of what is likely. People think speculation is usually negative, but it really isn't, or rather it isn't necessarily so.

    Incidentally im tying this into intuition in general not just strong intuition as in the Intuitive types.
    contemplation isnt an automated unconscious process, but is an conscious reasoning, this is about thinking, not intuition
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    Thanks - this definitely sounds familiar for the way I experience Ni!
    If you can relate to this does that make the connective process Ne?

    @INTP - How would an Ni relate to this description, or accept it if it does not fit it's impression and how can Ni have an impression if fitting to that impression is connectivity brought by Si and Ne?

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