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    Overall, I really liked the video--I agree with almost everything. In regards to being open with emotion and whether or not facial expressions seems genuine, I don't think this is Fe/Fi related. I don't see a pattern in the people I know with this.

    For instance, my best friend through middle and high school was an ISFJ, and she was a master at pretending to have whatever emotion she wanted to. But she was also pretty expressive. I know another ISFJ pretty well, and he was pretty mysterious with his emotions. I think he had an issue with being a man and a Feeler, honestly, because he liked to emphasize how analytical he was and how he liked to deal with "cold, hard facts," but it was obvious he had high Fe. With the ESFJs I've known, some are masters of portraying whatever emotion they want to and some are transparent and can't hide. With INFJs, I can't hide my true emotions for the life of me, but the other suspected INFJs I've known are pretty damn mysterious with their emotions.

    With Fi-users, my ISFP mother is much better than I am at faking warmth for strangers while my ESFP sister can't hide her true emotions and always comes off fake when trying to be "falsely happy." For the ENFPs I know, I would have said before that they wear their emotions on their sleeves, but what people have said about this being their energy instead of emotions is making me rethink this.

    So overall, I think that whether someone is open with their emotions, or is able to fake emotions convincingly, is related to far more factors than Fe/Fi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SubtleFighter View Post
    Overall, I really liked the video--I agree with almost everything. In regards to being open with emotion and whether or not facial expressions seems genuine, I don't think this is Fe/Fi related. I don't see a pattern in the people I know with this.

    For instance, my best friend through middle and high school was an ISFJ, and she was a master at pretending to have whatever emotion she wanted to. But she was also pretty expressive. I know another ISFJ pretty well, and he was pretty mysterious with his emotions. I think he had an issue with being a man and a Feeler, honestly, because he liked to emphasize how analytical he was and how he liked to deal with "cold, hard facts," but it was obvious he had high Fe. With the ESFJs I've known, some are masters of portraying whatever emotion they want to and some are transparent and can't hide. With INFJs, I can't hide my true emotions for the life of me, but the other suspected INFJs I've known are pretty damn mysterious with their emotions.

    With Fi-users, my ISFP mother is much better than I am at faking warmth for strangers while my ESFP sister can't hide her true emotions and always comes off fake when trying to be "falsely happy." For the ENFPs I know, I would have said before that they wear their emotions on their sleeves, but what people have said about this being their energy instead of emotions is making me rethink this.

    So overall, I think that whether someone is open with their emotions, or is able to fake emotions convincingly, is related to far more factors than Fe/Fi.
    You might be right on this, I'm least happy with this video actually, maybe I'll redo it in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Such Irony View Post
    Like the Fe types, other peoples' emotions can definitely affect how I feel. If you act grumpy around me, it will put me in a bad mood. I tend to be sympathetic of other peoples' hard luck stories. I try to do the socially acceptable thing when someone is under distress yet sometimes I feel awkward doing so. For example if someone tells me a loved one dies, I will do the standard "I'm sorry about your loss and try to sound all sad but there's always this anxiety that people will be able to see right through me and that I'm not being sincere.

    Regarding facial expressions, I'm somewhat of a mixed bag. I've been told that I tend to come across as rather 'flat' to others. Yet I've also been told that I have a nice warm smile and sparkling eyes- which I think might be more Fe. I'm also affected by others' enthusiasm. When others around me are enthusiastic and the interest is mutual, I will show more of that in my face I think.
    I can really relate to this, especially the bolded parts. I'v recently come to the conclusion I was mistaken about being a dominant Fi user. As I've read and studied the functions, I really can't relate to anything I learn about Fi and I have a hard time relating to posts about it by Fi users on this forum. At the same time, Fe sounds more natural as either a dominant or auxiliary function for me and I can much more easily relate to posts about it by other Fe users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyedecker View Post
    I can really relate to this, especially the bolded parts. I'v recently come to the conclusion I was mistaken about being a dominant Fi user. As I've read and studied the functions, I really can't relate to anything I learn about Fi and I have a hard time relating to posts about it by Fi users on this forum. At the same time, Fe sounds more natural as either a dominant or auxiliary function for me and I can much more easily relate to posts about it by other Fe users.
    Personally, I think you might be so dom and that's the source of your confusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    Personally, I think you might be so dom and that's the source of your confusion.
    Being So-Dom doesn't have much of an effect on how I relate to Fi and Fe. I'm tactful, but not in a Fe way.

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    I liked the video too!

    I have very easy smiles. I always look asian (even though I am not), I don't understand how some people can't smile. Well that explains it. Thanks!!

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    It's NOT how expressive you are at first impression that you're Fe or Fi, but the general behavior. IxFJs are more quiet so they'll obviously be reserved at first impression as much as IxFPs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xpeacexrainbowx View Post
    It's NOT how expressive you are at first impression that you're Fe or Fi, but the general behavior. IxFJs are more quiet so they'll obviously be reserved at first impression as much as IxFPs.
    My first impression vibes are more INTP and ISTJ to be honest. It's only after I get comfortable around a person and relax that I become uncontrollably expressive.
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    How does using Fe or Fi relate to the ability to hear truckloads of negative emotions? Is it Fe because it can empathize with whatever anyone else is feeling in the moment and let it go when they are gone? Or is it Fi because there is a better shield between the internal and external worlds, so that they can empathize and analyze the situation without total impact?

    Which type would be drawn to be a trauma counselor? I know very sensitive, emotional, empathetic people who shut down when hearing about too much horrible events, and others who can compartmentalize it, tolerate vast amounts of it, but then put it aside and maintain their emotional integrity and health. This is one of my most significant ongoing questions about the two functions, so I welcome any response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labyrinthine View Post
    How does using Fe or Fi relate to the ability to hear truckloads of negative emotions? Is it Fe because it can empathize with whatever anyone else is feeling in the moment and let it go when they are gone? Or is it Fi because there is a better shield between the internal and external worlds, so that they can empathize and analyze the situation without total impact?

    Which type would be drawn to be a trauma counselor? I know very sensitive, emotional, empathetic people who shut down when hearing about too much horrible events, and others who can compartmentalize it, tolerate vast amounts of it, but then put it aside and maintain their emotional integrity and health. This is one of my most significant ongoing questions about the two functions, so I welcome any response.
    Bingo

    Not to say Fe types can't do this without being affected a great deal, but through my interactions with them, I'm under the impression that others' negative emotions tend to wear them down more easily. It's not that simplistic of course. But to use myself as an example, while I would say I am not completely impervious to the emotions of others, especially if those emotions and situations of others are things I've felt personally before, then I can very quickly get into the same emotions they feel and genuinely feel saddened myself, I tend to view and approach other's issues and emotional problems literally just like any other jigsaw puzzle I'm trying to solve. There really is no difference to me in how tackling emotions of others feels, as trying to tackle I don't know, a rubix cube.

    Which type would be drawn to be a trauma counselor? Either would be just as qualified, I think the Fi user would be less enthusiastic about jumping into to solve the emotional problems of others, and rather, would give their advise and help should someone approach them.
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