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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    Is it a Ti thing to look at your MBTI type and see inconsistencies and try work out the kinks to figure out why you don't quite fit that type?
    At the very beginning, I typed myself as INTJ and noticed inconsistencies. Then I learned about the cognitive functions and that I'm INTP, and everything made sense.

    I don't notices inconsistencies in the cognitive functions. Maybe in looking at my temperament or type descriptions but not in my cognitive functions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctorjuice View Post
    At the very beginning, I typed myself as INTJ and noticed inconsistencies. Then I learned about the cognitive functions and that I'm INTP, and everything made sense.

    I don't notices inconsistencies in the cognitive functions. Maybe in looking at my temperament or type descriptions but not in my cognitive functions.
    Yeah, many in the past had pitched the ENTP idea to me before, but I thought it didn't work well because my morals are higher than the vast majority of ENTP types. Plus, I am a lot more emotional than most ENTP types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    Yeah, many in the past had pitched the ENTP idea to me before, but I thought it didn't work well because my morals are higher than the vast majority of ENTP types. Plus, I am a lot more emotional than most ENTP types.
    You may very well be closer to most ENTPs if I knew you better. I've met a number of ENTJs who due to their intuitive tendencies have typed ENTP because it sounds more ingenious and theoretical, yet they're clearly the more efficient, dry, no-nonsense ENTJs who just like living easygoing and open-mindedly by the wind; they're fairly less inspirational than ENTPs. This might very well be similar in your experiences if you ever think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    You may very well be closer to most ENTPs if I knew you better. I've met a number of ENTJs who due to their intuitive tendencies have typed ENTP because it sounds more ingenious and theoretical, yet they're clearly the more efficient, dry, no-nonsense ENTJs who just live their life open-mindedly by the wind. They're fairly less inspirational than ENTPs; so a different personality who types ENTP, this might very well be similar in your experiences if you ever think about it.
    No I seem to use Te.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    No I seem to use Te.
    You seem to use Ti and Fe to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    You may very well be closer to most ENTPs if I knew you better. I've met a number of ENTJs who due to their intuitive tendencies have typed ENTP because it sounds more ingenious and theoretical, yet they're clearly the more efficient, dry, no-nonsense ENTJs who just like living easygoing and open-mindedly by the wind; they're fairly less inspirational than ENTPs. This might very well be similar in your experiences if you ever think about it.
    You want to get to know me better? We can IM sometime if you want. I don't give a damn.

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    For the first time I am IMMENSELY EXCITED about posting in this thread, because I can give specific details of Fe/Si vs Fi/Se in action, and how they compliment each other.

    I have an ESFJ female friend whose intelligence I respect immensely. Of course sometimes her need to share tires me, but other times its exactly what I need to pull me out of myself. Same with her ability to read my emotions, versus my ability to quietly analyze her emotionally and ethically for her motives, etc.

    I admire her ability to catch herself in presentation almost always. She occasionally has some big Fe outburst, but normally she's constantly aware of how what she says affects other people that it would tire me out. She's almost overly preoccupied with social perceptions as ESFJs are wont to do (hey I shouldn't be flossing my teeth in a convertible in Beverly Hills, what will the neighbors think et al) and while this baffles me and even vexes me, it gives her great power over other people, in basically playing games with people.

    On the other hand she says she admires my ability to have a poker face, that Im more private, and that in a crisis situation I could con someone in the moment and she says she can hardly tell if Im lying or telling the truth. While Im not a master manipulator like she is (nor would I want to be) she's greatly impressed by my Fi ability to hide my true feelings or intentions, as well as my ability to stay focused in the moment and staying on track in a dire situation.

    She also thinks Im a great listener, lol.

    I think an Fi dom and Fe dom could make great business partners. My bff from high school is an ENFJ and my closest sister is an ESFJ and I think Fi and Fe can work well together, and this is the first new close Fe dom friend Ive made since learning about Jung and it thrills me to see the theory in action in my personal life (I mean an Fe dom actually telling me how she admires my Fi mask, essentially, though she has no idea what Fi is.)

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    Great stuff. That's funny she points out Fi in you even though she doesn't know anything about MBTI.

    I think functions that only differ in orientation (Fi and Fe, Ni and Ne, Ti and Te, etc.) can compliment each other well. For instance, Ne can generate many many ideas and Ni can take the significant ones and go far with them. If Ni gets stuck in a rut, Ne can come in and broaden the horizons again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctorjuice View Post
    @Marmie Dearest
    I think functions that only differ in orientation (Fi and Fe, Ni and Ne, Ti and Te, etc.) can compliment each other well. For instance, Ne can generate many many ideas and Ni can take the significant ones and go far with them. If Ni gets stuck in a rut, Ne can come in and broaden the horizons again.
    Yes, indeed. Although I've noticed this phenomenon more with the perception functions - Ne/Ni and Se/Si - and less with the judgment functions (although opposing judgment functions can enrich each other as well no question). One just doesn't see the same attraction between opposing judgment functions that one sees between opposing perception functions. One doesn't see Ti doms and Te doms as couples, for example, at the same rate one sees Se doms and Si doms. I've mused on this quite a bit and have some thoughts, but that's probably for another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    For the first time I am IMMENSELY EXCITED about posting in this thread, because I can give specific details of Fe/Si vs Fi/Se in action, and how they compliment each other.

    I have an ESFJ female friend whose intelligence I respect immensely. Of course sometimes her need to share tires me, but other times its exactly what I need to pull me out of myself. Same with her ability to read my emotions, versus my ability to quietly analyze her emotionally and ethically for her motives, etc.

    I admire her ability to catch herself in presentation almost always. She occasionally has some big Fe outburst, but normally she's constantly aware of how what she says affects other people that it would tire me out. She's almost overly preoccupied with social perceptions as ESFJs are wont to do (hey I shouldn't be flossing my teeth in a convertible in Beverly Hills, what will the neighbors think et al) and while this baffles me and even vexes me, it gives her great power over other people, in basically playing games with people.


    On the other hand she says she admires my ability to have a poker face, that Im more private, and that in a crisis situation I could con someone in the moment and she says she can hardly tell if Im lying or telling the truth. While Im not a master manipulator like she is (nor would I want to be) she's greatly impressed by my Fi ability to hide my true feelings or intentions, as well as my ability to stay focused in the moment and staying on track in a dire situation.

    She also thinks Im a great listener, lol.

    I think an Fi dom and Fe dom could make great business partners. My bff from high school is an ENFJ and my closest sister is an ESFJ and I think Fi and Fe can work well together, and this is the first new close Fe dom friend Ive made since learning about Jung and it thrills me to see the theory in action in my personal life (I mean an Fe dom actually telling me how she admires my Fi mask, essentially, though she has no idea what Fi is.)
    Yeah, I can do this too. What you just described was the upside of Fe. The downside is that because you are so in tuned to how everyone feels it makes you then feel like shit when other people feel like shit. Also, it allows you to know when you are hated by people, and when you have such a strong perception of how others feel about you it can feel like getting poked by a cactus when you walk into a room full of people that hate you. In addition, because you are so attuned to what people want and need, it makes you feel like shit when you see a person in need that you can't help. That's the downside to Fe.

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