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  • Lawful Good

    4 5.26%
  • Neutral Good

    29 38.16%
  • Chaotic Good

    9 11.84%
  • Lawful Neutral

    4 5.26%
  • True Neutral

    12 15.79%
  • Chaotic Neutral

    12 15.79%
  • Lawful Evil

    4 5.26%
  • Neutral Evil

    1 1.32%
  • Chaotic Evil

    1 1.32%
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    Chaotic Evil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamske View Post
    Lawful Evil...???...???
    Hubby thought I'd score chaotic good... To break the law is not a challenge, to do what you want while following the law is!
    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd Girl View Post
    Chaotic Evil

    So ENTPs are evil ? I never would have guessed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    So ENTPs are evil ? I never would have guessed.
    Sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Well, I don't know if the true evils would care, but I don't know whether they'd want to come out and openly admit that they are evil. It might hurt their ability to execute their dastardly deeds.
    ! True.
    Yeah, I don't know whether you can really "change" or "develop" on this system.

    It kinda just seems you are one way, and likely probably always have been that way.

    Ok, maybe not, I suppose certain shifts could happen in one's life, a la what UniqueMixture said.

    But I don't know if those changes would be anything you could or would want to have control over.

    It seems like you could kind of have a "conversion" experience to being more good or more evil, tho.

    I'm not sure whether people would be as likely to slide on the order vs chaos axis, tho -- maybe...?
    I figure maybe you could have some major perspective change that would cause you to shift on the Law-Chaos axis, like going from a conservative fundamentalist household where you were basically subject to your parents' rule and going away to college - I think this happened with a friend of mine; she seems to have moved from Lawful Good to Neutral Good after escaping her parents' indoctrination and discovering the freedom of intellectual society... or maybe the opposite happens, you grow up in a fairly lawless household with a lot of strife and fighting and are Chaotic because that's basically how you learned to live, but you start to grow towards Lawful as you see how order and stability can create peace and harmony...

    See, one of the reasons I'm interested in this system is because of dating.

    The fact of the matter is, I think I only want to date someone who is good.

    Whether lawful, neutral, or chaotic, I'm not as sure; neutral would probably be my top choice.

    Between lawful and chaotic: lawful has the stigma of being a boring anal retentive, while chaotics just seem like they might throw too much unnecessary drama/chaos into the mix. I don't know whether individuals of these preferences would necessarily have to hold to these stereotypes, tho. I'm sure there could be cooler and less cool lawfuls, and more manageable and less manageable chaotics.
    True. For me, I think wanting to be with someone who is either Neutral or Lawful is like wanting (needing?) to be with someone who is a J - I just know that given my own strengths and weaknesses, my life is going to be a lot smoother and happier if I have a J around. Yes, sometimes I will want to totally overturn their morning routine just because I find the perceived "necessity" of it to them illogical and annoying, but for the most part I will find it endearing and the regularity and sureness of it comforting. And yes sometimes I will want my Lawful or Neutral to say "fuck it all" and run off for the hell of it, but truth be told I don't really want them doing that in my personal life. Not to me. With externals, yes, maybe, but that's just indicative of me wanting a change in my external world and me needing to actually do something about it.

    I do know that I have to be with someone for whom Good is the top priority, over Law. I couldn't handle being with someone who is Lawful over Good, because, like I said, I think law exists to foster good.

    I think it's less about sorting people via system and more like you have to learn what is best for you internally and then these systems become shorthand for what you know works for you. Of course you are going to run across a few outliers who are good for you despite their usually unappealing type or bad for you despite their usually appealing type (probably more of the latter), but for the most part, these systems - MBTI, Enneagram, Alignment - get at core perspectives that speak to how you will act and react in every realm of life and the basics of how you operate as a person... MBTI covering how you think; Enneagram how you protect yourself; Alignment what you value most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I think there's actually a lot of value to this system.

    I know a thread like this has been made before, but there was no poll.

    Here are some places you can take a test:
    http://www.okcupid.com/quizzy/take
    http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20001222b
    http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/Style/cr...our-alignment/
    http://www.pa.msu.edu/~aaronson/alitest/aintro.html

    Here are some explanations of the system:
    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...acterAlignment
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignme...s_%26_Dragons)

    The nine alignments can be represented in a grid, as follows:
    Lawful Good - Neutral Good - Chaotic Good
    Lawful Neutral - True Neutral - Chaotic Neutral
    Lawful Evil - Neutral Evil - Chaotic Evil

    Also, if you don't mind, share why you think have the alignment that you do, and how relevant of a descriptor you think it is.

    Do you think it is more, less, or equally as relevant as the MBTI/Jungian typology or the Enneagram?

    Would you take this system into consideration when it comes to whom you date?
    Really interesting thread. I am responding first before reading the whole thread so I don't change answers.

    Taking this test: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20001222b

    I am breaking down my responses to the categories because I found it interesting how divergent I am depending on how far removed I am from the focus.

    Family: I answer in alignment with the family's need on average with a few answers supporting solely myself.
    Friends: Similar to family answers.
    Community: My answers shift pretty far here to reveal I don't care about my community, but desire help from them if I need it.
    King/Country: My answers shift even further beyond what they did in the community. If I can get away with it, I will do it. If I need to, I shall flee.
    Crime/Punishment: Haha, very similar pattern to the above. If I can get away I will do it with an emphasis on indirect harm rather than direct.
    Business/Economy: Sort of in the middle.

    And as a result I got Neutral/Neutral.


    Also, if you don't mind, share why you think have the alignment that you do, and how relevant of a descriptor you think it is.


    I think I have this alignment because when I broke the categories down it shows how divergent my behavior is depending on what the situation is. If it is close friends/family then I will lean in one direction. If it is something far removed like government then I go in the opposite direction. Both modes serve me the most.

    Do you think it is more, less, or equally as relevant as the MBTI/Jungian typology or the Enneagram?

    I am INFP type 4 SX/SP. I think it fits with who I am. The SX side of me likes bonding with a few people whom I value. The SP side of me wants to make sure I am in a good position to be secure and safe. The more I can get away with something to keep me secure, the likelier it is that I will do it.

    Would you take this system into consideration when it comes to whom you date?

    I have never thought of this before, so I am unsure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    Lawful Stupid is almost exactly the titular antiheroine of Serial Mom!

    For those of you who haven't seen it, she brutally murders someone for wearing white after Labor Day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    So ENTPs are evil ? I never would have guessed.
    Evil okay, but lawful? Isn't that synonymous to J? Granted, I have worked a bit on some Judger abilities, but I'm not going to change type! Ne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    How so?
    It seems Jock has no intention of explaining it himself. So here is my take.

    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    I think that being good is certainly personally satisfying to a lot of people, and that's why they do it. Why are you a good person then, if not to satisfy your own cognitive need to be so? There's nothing inherently negative about selfishness.
    What Jock means is that people do good out of a desire to do good. That desire, may it be a 'genuine care for the well-being of others and humanity at large' or an urge to save snails from being squelched, is a personal desire, and satisfying it is thus selfish: you do good because it makes you feel good. You may think that it is the right thing to do, too. But that does not change the fact that you get off on helping others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    First off, what you have described in the bolded sounds like Stage 3 of Lawrence Kholberg's 6-stage theory of moral development:

    In Stage three (interpersonal accord and conformity driven), the self enters society by filling social roles. Individuals are receptive to approval or disapproval from others as it reflects society's accordance with the perceived role. They try to be a "good boy" or "good girl" to live up to these expectations, having learned that there is inherent value in doing so. Stage three reasoning may judge the morality of an action by evaluating its consequences in terms of a person's relationships, which now begin to include things like respect, gratitude and the "golden rule". "I want to be liked and thought well of; apparently, not being naughty makes people like me." Desire to maintain rules and authority exists only to further support these social roles. The intentions of actors play a more significant role in reasoning at this stage; "they mean well ...".
    What is described here has nothing to do with the above. Doing something because it makes you feel good and doing something because it makes others think highly of you, which in turn makes you feel good, are very different. For one, good follows directly from his desire to do good; for the other, good follows from his desire to be appreciated by others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    Secondly, I am a good person because I genuinely care for the well-being of others and humanity at large. My reasons are more along the lines of Stage 6 of Kholberg's theory of moral development:

    In Stage six (universal ethical principles driven), moral reasoning is based on abstract reasoning using universal ethical principles. Laws are valid only insofar as they are grounded in justice, and a commitment to justice carries with it an obligation to disobey unjust laws. Legal rights are unnecessary, as social contracts are not essential for deontic moral action. Decisions are not reached hypothetically in a conditional way but rather categorically in an absolute way, as in the philosophy of Immanuel Kant. This involves an individual imagining what they would do in another’s shoes, if they believed what that other person imagines to be true. The resulting consensus is the action taken. In this way action is never a means but always an end in itself; the individual acts because it is right, and not because it is instrumental, expected, legal, or previously agreed upon. Although Kohlberg insisted that stage six exists, he found it difficult to identify individuals who consistently operated at that level.
    This, on the other hand, which really is Kant's idea, is, perhaps surprisingly, not incompatible with doing what makes you feel good. It might just be that following an abstract principle of what is considered good in your daily life is also what makes you feel good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd Girl View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    It seems Jock has no intention of explaining it himself. So here is my take.

    What Jock means is that people do good out of a desire to do good. That desire, may it be a 'genuine care for the well-being of others and humanity at large' or an urge to save snails from being squelched, is a personal desire, and satisfying it is thus selfish: you do good because it makes you feel good. You may think that it is the right thing to do, too. But that does not change the fact that you get off on helping others.

    What is described here has nothing to do with the above. Doing something because it makes you feel good and doing something because it makes others think highly of you, which in turn makes you feel good, are very different. For one, good follows directly from his desire to do good; for the other, good follows from his desire to be appreciated by others.

    This, on the other hand, which really is Kant's idea, is, perhaps surprisingly, not incompatible with doing what makes you feel good. It might just be that following an abstract principle of what is considered good in your daily life is also what makes you feel good.
    Well, I can tell you that, while it does feel good to be good, that's certainly not my motivation. I like helping others for the sake of helping others, because I genuinely care about other people.
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