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    Have to rush, so this one is going to be a short one.

    Is it? Is Ni a function driven on fears?

    Ex - Makes a prediction/assumption. Acts on it to prevent self from getting knee deep in trouble/takes-precautions etc.

    Is that how it works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    Ex - Makes a prediction/assumption. Acts on it to prevent self from getting knee deep in trouble/takes-precautions etc.
    I think that's more Ne than Ni.

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    No. Fears are not caused from how we take in, process, or judge information or thoughts.

    Fears are connected to our ego in some way.


    Further, fears can be the best tool for growth, if you let them.
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    I think Ni is a neutral function.

    It can be driven by aspirations toward positive ends, or by fears away from scary ends, and everything in between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    Have to rush, so this one is going to be a short one.

    Is it? Is Ni a function driven on fears?

    Ex - Makes a prediction/assumption. Acts on it to prevent self from getting knee deep in trouble/takes-precautions etc.

    Is that how it works?
    Yes.
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    Ex - Makes a prediction/assumption.
    Edit: yes, though I wish you would elaborate on the process of prediction and assumption Riva.
    Acts on it to prevent self from getting knee deep in trouble/takes-precautions etc.
    This is not Ni.

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    [YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri61lBfMBu0"]Transformation[/YOUTUBE]
    Watch the video of transformation. One is able to see the progressive changes. Ni is the process of the change of the object. Pause the video at any random moment within it. That chosen figure is the concluding form which brings about the end of the Ni process. A judging function is used to make the process stop for conclusive thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakysage View Post
    [YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri61lBfMBu0"]Transformation[/YOUTUBE]
    Watch the video of transformation. One is able to see the progressive changes. Ni is the process of the change of the object. Pause the video at any random moment within it. That chosen figure is the concluding form which brings about the end of the Ni process. A judging function is used to make the process stop for conclusive thought.
    Excellent post. This validates my own impression on Ni.

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    Ni is a perceiving function. If a fear were to occur surrounding Ni, it would be because of a combination with the judgement of Fi, for example. Like how INTJs and ISFPs can both have these terrible Fi/Ni or Ni/Fi loops that instead of being productive can get out of hand in a negative way.

    I mean my Ni can work with Fi in a positive way, to help me shift the context of an event, in order to distance and see the situation from all angles, for "what it really is", in a more impersonal manner so that I can have more rational Fi values.

    But an Fi/Ni loop can make an ISFP have knee-jerk responses that people are ganging up on him or her, that people don't like them, things along those lines.

    With INTJs it seems to be less about the self (with ISFPs Fi comes first) but it's just as self-absorbed...since they have Ni first it's more likely to be predicting holistic batshit things like conspiracy theories in the greater world that they can become convinced that only they can see. There is this woman on Personality Cafe who types herself as ENTJ but who I think is a deeply deeply unhealthy INTJ who thinks EVERYTHING is a conspiracy, and it's really intricate and well-thought out...but insane all the same.

    Ni in and of itself, though, is about asking why and looking for deeper meaning and distancing from the object to shift context of perception and having internal visions, which can be good or bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    No. Fears are not caused from how we take in, process, or judge information or thoughts.

    Fears are connected to our ego in some way.


    Further, fears can be the best tool for growth, if you let them.
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