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    Quote Originally Posted by Owfin View Post
    A dominant function is incredibly versatile. It is omnipresent; from ordering food at a restaurant to philosophical inquiry.
    same with math and verbal capacities, and we can still measure those in terms of capacities without resorting to asking "how attracted are you to numerical values". so why wouldn't we able ot do it for Ni? or Te? or even Fe? or any cognitive function? or any of their various combinations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mane View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mane View Post
    sure, why not?
    Good on you. I think the most useful system resides somewhere between our currently untestable theories and our shallow models of behavior.

    The closest existing analog to what you're talking about are some of the Socionics tests that have candidates choose from photographs to determine what their 'dual' type might be, which would give an indication of what their type is. It's bollocks in my opinion, but that's only because duality and intertype relationships are bollocks--the system winds up typing me all sorts of oddball things, and it varies more drastically than a simple self-report does.

    I'd go about it differently than that, though. I would go about this not by testing skills, but by throwing up a bunch of hypothetical scenarios and having the multiple choice responses each being a 'solution' to "What would you do in this scenario?" Many type descriptions contain examples of what that type would do in some given scenario; it's simply a matter of starting from the scenario rather than from the type.

    It'd be a cool experiment, at least. If someone were to pull it off, we could see how self-report differs from more indirect measures.

    I'm struggling with something similar, in trying to measure people's values. The direct approach was fine, but we did have some problems with it--namely, we and the test-takers themselves felt as though measuring 'immeasurable' things in such a transparent way was problematic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bologna View Post
    I'd go about it differently than that, though. I would go about this not by testing skills, but by throwing up a bunch of hypothetical scenarios and having the multiple choice responses each being a 'solution' to "What would you do in this scenario?" Many type descriptions contain examples of what that type would do in some given scenario; it's simply a matter of starting from the scenario rather than from the type.
    i like that idea... i think they can be combined though.

    see what i really want to see is whether the development of a function or it's "relative strength" corolates to which ones we use first. because i am starting to suspect it doesn't: i think its a matter of priority, and not development.

    the difference being that someone might have a very developed Ti for exmaple, possibly more then their Fe, but would innately choose to trust their Fe before trusting their Ti, thus still being an Fe-> Ti rather then Ti->Fe, whether it is because of one being more immidate then the other, more influencing over their information processing, more ingrained, etc... hypothetically one could even have very well developed shadow functions, and yet still have them functioning as shadow functions rising in states of stress.

    if i am right, we might see many results where the relative development of each function is completely seperated from the priority in which they choose to use them. so we need to test both the development and the priority.

    now, where are those testwriters...

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