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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    No, you just pulled it out of your ass my friend.
    Regardless, if I pulled it out of my ass, I already did so before in the thread.

    And, as such, if you haven't read it, then fucking read it.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    If you are referencing Nardi's research, the lack of interest / desire to listen is related to Ti types.
    Yes, I know this.

    But I think it relates to TiSi cognition.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    Pointing to your own response to the thread here on TypC:

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    Yes, if you'd read the thread, you would have seen that I already referenced that post in this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    So, again, I am interested to know how you make that jump about Si...
    As I said before, if you haven't already, read the thread.

    I don't feel like recapitulating what's already been covered before.

    Get some context, and then, if you still want to discuss, as I said, I will be more than willing to.

    A ton of the context is within this thread, and I even spent my time/energy finding and linking you to where to start.

    So, for the third time: if you want to actually discuss this issue, get some context by reading the fucking thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    ...esp when Fi types (also with Si in the tertiary position same as an INTP) "are consummate listeners who listen in a holistic way" from the op of that thread.
    Are you aware of the part where he said, "Until they make up their mind. Then they're not good listeners anymore. Then they never change their initial decision."?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    But I think it relates to TiSi cognition.
    But that's not what you are saying - you point specifically to Si for the "not listening" part?

    And I am curious why? Surely your Te can quickly summarize and spare me 231 posts, of which I have probably read 100 but for heaven's sakes! Have some mercy on me!

    Are you aware of the part where he said, "Until they make up their mind. Then they're not good listeners anymore. Then they never change their initial decision."?
    Enjoyed your paraphrase. This is what's actually in thread: "INFPs are less likely to defend their own views or take action, though when they stop listening, region Fp1 becomes very active as they make a strong (and perhaps final) decision."
    "Remember always that you not only have the right to be an individual, you have an obligation to be one."
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    "When people see some things as beautiful,
    other things become ugly.
    When people see some things as good,
    other things become bad."
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    But that's not what you are saying - you point specifically to Si for the "not listening" part?
    No, I'm not.

    And that's why I'm not going to paraphrase it for you.

    Because to understand what I was actually saying, you need to read it in context.

    I understand that you're an Si user, and, as such, per our discussion here, context isn't that important to you, but, here, it is.


    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    And I am curious why? Surely your Te can quickly summarize and spare me 231 posts, of which I have probably read 100 but for heaven's sakes! Have some mercy on me!
    Oh, I certainly can.

    But I don't really feel like it.

    Not with the tone with which you've chosen to engage me.

    You've known me long enough to not make the assumptions you did that were inherent from your tone, and that addressing me in such a tone wouldn't yield your desired results. And, if you didn't already, you should have, so you can consider these last several posts the negative reinforcement that is necessary to get you to realize it.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    Enjoyed your paraphrase. This is what's actually in thread: "INFPs are less likely to defend their own views or take action, though when they stop listening, region Fp1 becomes very active as they make a strong (and perhaps final) decision."
    I wasn't paraphrasing (just) that.

    And my paraphrase was pretty accurate.

    I was paraphrasing the lecture he gave in the video I posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    You've known me long enough to not make the assumptions you did that were inherent from your tone, and that addressing me in such a tone wouldn't yield your desired results.
    There was NO tone, only YOUR inference of tone. Read it again. There's only a question there.

    Anyways, don't bother to answer, I haven't seen anything in your posts that proves this to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    There was NO tone, only YOUR inference of tone. Read it again. There's only a question there.
    There is always tone.

    Whether you are aware of it or not.

    Just look at your second post to see when it was made (more) obvious.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    Anyways, don't bother to answer, I haven't seen anything in your posts that proves this to me.
    I really don't care if you have, as I highly doubt you understand it; nor will attempted reverse psychology work here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Just look at your second post to see when it was made more obvious.
    You know what, I have had only brief moments on the forum lately as I am renovating a house.

    (Yesterday I hopped on more between waiting for coats of paint to dry.)

    So if my question struck you as short, it's only because I have been pressed for time to engage with the content here. I asked it quickly.

    My apologies if that offended you.

    There WAS tone in the second post though because of your choice to construe the first as tone.

    So, whatever. Think whatever you want to.
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    Why is the notion that, "Oh, I doubt you'd understand it" and "Your posts prove my point" so prevalent, today?

    FWIW, I don't respond to people who assert that I don't understand what they're talking about.
    An argument is two people sharing their ignorance.

    A discussion is two people sharing their understanding, even when they disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    You know what, I have had only brief moments on the forum lately as I am renovating a house.

    (Yesterday I hopped on more between waiting for coats of paint to dry.)

    So if my question struck you as short, it's only because I have been pressed for time to engage with the content here. I asked it quickly.

    My apologies if that offended you.
    No need to apologize for the first.

    I wasn't offended, it simply didn't prompt me to respond as you wanted.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    There WAS tone in the second post though because of your choice to construe the first as tone.
    I didn't construe the first as having tone, I considered it as possibly having tone, and not phrased in a way or happening to be about a particular topic that I found interesting enough to respond to (at least not how you wanted). Regardless, I still gave you a relatively polite reply, going so far as to find the links to the correct posts for you to start reading up on. And I said nothing overtly offensive enough in my response to warrant the tone in your second post, whether it existed concealed in your first post or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    So, whatever. Think whatever you want to.
    Ditto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post
    Why is the notion that, "Oh, I doubt you'd understand it" and "Your posts prove my point" so prevalent, today?

    FWIW, I don't respond to people who assert that I don't understand what they're talking about.
    And, ftr, I never said I highly doubt she would/could understand it.

    I said I highly doubt she does understand it.

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