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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Yes, as I said before, I'm familiar with your canned responses when you're wrong and have nothing substantive to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post

    That's where you're misinterpreting the INTJ thought process, because you're treating it as if it were an INTP thought process. And yes, I see INTPs get one thing wrong, only one, and it takes an extremely long time to correct the error, never mind the amount of time it takes to sift through their version of truth to find the error.

    And yes, that's exactly why INTPs are very careful with the truth, because one wrong fact requires a lot of work to rebuild.
    I have to say that this has been a stumbling block for me. It is something I have only been able to improve by being aware of it and then taking steps to prevent it. One of the best ways I handle it is to reduce my insistence on precision. It creates necessary wiggle room for me so that when that 'one thing' is wrong, I don't become stuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbone View Post
    I have to say that this has been a stumbling block for me. It is something I have only been able to improve by being aware of it and then taking steps to prevent it. One of the best ways I handle it is to reduce my insistence on precision. It creates necessary wiggle room for me so that when that 'one thing' is wrong, I don't become stuck.
    Thanks for your insight. It's always interesting to hear the other side of it. How does that "wiggle room" feel to you? Do you just accept things as provisionally true, or what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    #3 Not listening - Si (check)
    By what extrapolation do you think Si is about listening vs not listening?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    By what extrapolation do you think Si is about listening vs not listening?


    Here we go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post
    Thanks for your insight. It's always interesting to hear the other side of it. How does that "wiggle room" feel to you? Do you just accept things as provisionally true, or what?
    Scary at first but necessary. Now, it feels "right". I find that I can act on things and feel comfortable with it. I don't have to know everything, have everything figured out before I act. I just trust myself better now to know that I can fit myself into the path toward the goal. Easing up on the precision makes things fall into place much easier than me forcing it.

    Yes, I do accept things as provisionally true. It's like a river; the paradox of something being the same and yet ever changing.

    Oddly enough, I only started to think like this while I was recovering from a severe, years-long depression and a series of severe emotional shocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    By what extrapolation do you think Si is about listening vs not listening?
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    Agreed.

    Peacebaby, that answer's easy to find if you just read the thread.

    These two posts (1, 2) are where I started putting that construction down in writing.

    I really don't think it serves any value to the thread to recapitulate what I meant by that.

    If, after reading the thread, you still have questions about it, I'll be more than willing to answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Peacebaby, that answer's easy to find if you just read the thread.
    No, you just pulled it out of your ass my friend.

    If you are referencing Nardi's research, the lack of interest / desire to listen is related to Ti types.

    Pointing to your own response to the thread here on TypC:

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    So, again, I am interested to know how you make that jump about Si, esp when Fi types (also with Si in the tertiary position same as an INTP) "are consummate listeners who listen in a holistic way" from the op of that thread.
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