ENTJ's and aggressive avatars

[Sniffles]

I like avatars I think represent ENTJ well, and often they reflect on my character as well.

I'm interested in knowing how Marshal Zhukov reflects your personality.

 

[LeonardoLestat]

A quick survey of the avatar choices of prominent ENTJ's I've seen around various boards:

- general
- drill sergeant
- smarmy James Dean with a cig
- western gunfighter
- ugly mean-lookin dude
- lone ranger

I notice a pattern. Do they see themselves as being like these people, or are they playing up the stereotype to make fun of themselves?

maybe they are making fun of the estj
seriously, im drawn to avatars with vampires on em en stuff, but im more into that subtle aggression... i identify with both the aggressor and the peacemaker so thats contradicting.
i dunno, i dont think they thought it through that much, its just 'i have to have an avatar, hmmm this one's right'.

 

[Valiant]

A quick survey of the avatar choices of prominent ENTJ's I've seen around various boards:

- general
- drill sergeant
- smarmy James Dean with a cig
- western gunfighter
- ugly mean-lookin dude
- lone ranger

I notice a pattern. Do they see themselves as being like these people, or are they playing up the stereotype to make fun of themselves?

Well, ofc there is a bloody pattern. Why would a person not pick what he/she thinks is cool or representative? Oh, and by the way... Add deities and Sith lods to the list

 

[ajblaise]

Analyze this avatar and tell me what it says to you.

It says you're conflicted between your masculine and more dominating side and your more feminine side that society would like you to fully adopt.

 

[Haphazard]

Analyze this avatar and tell me what it says to you.

A girl who won't take no for an answer.

Abstract representation of a scientist frolicking through flowers.

Well, he's not exactly a scientist. But yes, he is frolicking through flowers.

 

[Giggly]

I like ENTJ's and their aggressive avatars.

 

[Silent Stars]

INFJ: Calm imagery.

For the most part, yeah (especially my current Myspace background lol), but here are some of the others I've used over the years (not all of these are edited the way I had them):

 

[Synarch]

That's dicked up. Scary!

 

[Silent Stars]

hahaha, ok...well, I happen to appreciate dark art just as much as stuff that's really pretty.

 

[Gabe]

Umm.. when is someone going to state the obvious.

ENTJs are generally seen as agressive types in the online-stereotype community, so the notion is reinforced, agressive people identify as ENTJ even if they're not...creates an echo loop of misinformation that perpetuates the myth.

As so often happens in these forums.

DUH.

 

[The Ü™]

Personally, I think it's more about scoring as ENTJ and then learning about all the compelling stereotypes.

 

[MissMurder]

That's dicked up. Scary!

LOL!

 

[Venom]

Eye pictures seem to capture "intensity". those who know me IRL often describe me as intense

 

[Ghost of the dead horse]

Umm.. when is someone going to state the obvious.

ENTJs are generally seen as agressive types in the online-stereotype community, so the notion is reinforced, agressive people identify as ENTJ even if they're not...creates an echo loop of misinformation that perpetuates the myth.

As so often happens in these forums.

DUH.

The "obviousness" of a conclusion is a good clue for it to be, in fact, prematurely concluded.

As stereotypes are, in general, concepts reserved for those others, less people are probably prone to type themselves by the stereotype than they are to type the others.

 

[Gabe]

The "obviousness" of a conclusion is a good clue for it to be, in fact, prematurely concluded.

As stereotypes are, in general, concepts reserved for those others, less people are probably prone to type themselves by the stereotype than they are to type the others.

Unless the stereotype is percieved by that person or other parties to be flattering.

Or, like my friend in high school once said, "I'm Asian, therefor I'm just better at life".

I suppose I could strike back about obvious conclusions with a pseudo-intellectual reference to occam's razor or something Seriously, the last thing I want to get into is one of those discussions.

Who are you quoting at this point anyways?

 

[Ghost of the dead horse]

Unless the stereotype is percieved by that person or other parties to be flattering.

Or, like my friend in high school once said, "I'm Asian, therefor I'm just better at life".

I suppose I could strike back about obvious conclusions with a pseudo-intellectual reference to occam's razor or something Seriously, the last thing I want to get into is one of those discussions.

Who are you quoting at this point anyways?

I'm quoting myself and referring to you. Self-reinforcement may be a factor in self-typing, but it's far off from being the greatest factor. Paints an awfully lame picture of ENTJs. Suppose this is the picture you wanted to portray, so now we have your opinion but nothing more.

The Razor doesn't include a mutually agreeable method to remove the redundant; it just provides an easy, personal stamp-of-approval for one's favorite theories - see, I've cut the redundant, now look what I've achieved.

 

[Gabe]

I'm quoting myself and referring to you. Self-reinforcement may be a factor in self-typing, but it's far off from being the greatest factor. Paints an awfully lame picture of ENTJs. Suppose this is the picture you wanted to portray, so now we have your opinion but nothing more.

The Razor doesn't include a mutually agreeable method to remove the redundant; it just provides an easy, personal stamp-of-approval for one's favorite theories - see, I've cut the redundant, now look what I've achieved.

I don't delude myself for one second into believing that most people post on these forums with actual good information about their types.

This is a problem about misinformation about the internet, and every type including ENTJs sometimes behave in ways that make themselves part of the problem. I'd bet that "self-reinforcing" is very often the greatest factor in typing, especially with people who are so obsessed with thier tough-guy avatars:rolli:

 

[Ghost of the dead horse]

I don't delude myself for one second into believing that most people post on these forums with actual good information about their types.

This is a problem about misinformation about the internet, and every type including ENTJs sometimes behave in ways that make themselves part of the problem. I'd bet that "self-reinforcing" is very often the greatest factor in typing, especially with people who are so obsessed with thier tough-guy avatars:rolli:

Obsessed? Try casual :rolli:

MBTI manuals, as I've understood, encourage for person to find a well-fitting type. I've seen no reason why ENTJs would be particularly prone to self-flattery, or why particular "clues" would be particularly bad when it comes to ENTJ. I've seen that many people have raised the ENTJ type as some antithesis to their existance, along with other ExxJ's.. so I see why it has gathered a kind of unneeded attention.

Perhaps some people see ENTJ as a "I win" button. It's hard to stay clear of simplicities. Many of our members are not more than perhaps 15 years of age, 18.. 20? Perhaps we could lessen the unwanted influence of ENTJ by displaying what kind of winners the other types can be. I've always opposed the idea of J persisting and P bailing out, resulting in J winning and P losing :rolli:

ENTJ and ENTP were pointed out as the most desired types, i.e. "want to be that type" in a MBTIc poll some time ago. I identified as ENTP back* then and feared how the biased view on the subject was unconstructive for proper typing. Perhaps we suffer some of that as ENTJs then. Still, there's the real ENTJ population, as there's real population of any type. Then there's people who've been trying to find their type for as long they've know about type, like me.

Still, it's an unhelpful simplification to blurt out the things you do. Wouldn't you care to elaborate and offer a more balanced view before you communicate your ideas?

*No, not a result of how a popular image that type had

 

[Schrödinger's cat]

I don't see how my "joker" cat avatar could be considered aggressive. Unless there is an INFJ PETA activist lurking...come out, come out, wherever you are! ;> Also, I will rotate avatars from time to time. This one just seemed entertaining as Halloween is near. I will go back to something else later.

 

[Haphazard]

You know, if it helps, the gorilla in Santtu's avatar doesn't look 'aggressive.' Powerful, perhaps, but not aggressive.

If you notice, he's smiling at you.