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    Quote Originally Posted by Porcelain Hearts View Post
    I will say most of my deep connections come from illustrious conversations with N's, but there is no denying the absolute rich instinct of an S's ability to live in the moment, uninhibited by imaginary doubt. Even ISFP's, with their Introverted-Perceiving attributes, still react heavily on their senses and are often known to be very good athletes. Sensors live a "practical" life and are more comfortable manipulating constituents than the big idea itself. So they certainly live closer to their word than we Intuitives do.
    So the second part thats bolded pretty much knocks the validity of the first Is the whole N thing in your head or is it real?

    Hopefully an S manipulates you into thinking he is an N
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Poki_ View Post
    So the second part thats bolded pretty much knocks the validity of the first Is the whole N thing in your head or is it real?

    Hopefully an S manipulates you into thinking he is an N
    To an N, the abstract is just as real as the tangible picture. I mean, if you were to really analyse it, language in itself is an abstract device that's not at all tangible, but we still use communication as a real equivalent to how we portray ourselves.

    It's not easy being a hypocrite and seeing the big picture all at once. I feel sensors can be aware of the big picture, but not so much entirely grasp the gravity of the information or their influence on it, while I think Intuitives connect information and by that accountability, FEEL like a part of that systematic problem or solution.

    In no way am I trying to undermine a Sensors capabilities; if anything I could use more Sensor friends to be grounded and focus one task at a time instead of solving an infinite enigma or political agendas. I envy their scrupulous, refined exertion to be skilled at what they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porcelain Hearts View Post
    To an N, the abstract is just as real as the tangible picture. I mean, if you were to really analyse it, language in itself is an abstract device that's not at all tangible, but we still use communication as a real equivalent to how we portray ourselves.

    It's not easy being a hypocrite and seeing the big picture all at once. I feel sensors can be aware of the big picture, but not so much entirely grasp the gravity of the information or their influence on it, while I think Intuitives connect information and by that accountability, FEEL like a part of that systematic problem or solution.

    In no way am I trying to undermine a Sensors capabilities; if anything I could use more Sensor friends to be grounded and focus one task at a time instead of solving an infinite enigma or political agendas. I envy their scrupulous, refined exertion to be skilled at what they do.
    I see that with Dom N mostly, but not with secondary, tertiary Ns. So is there really an S/N devide? or is it only among Dom N vs Dom S? I was raised with Ns and have no issues what soever maintaining a satisfying conversation. Especially with Dom Ni. Its only when I want to be argumentative for the sake of getting a point across or something is it no longer enjoyable for dom Ni, but Dom Ne is different.

    I dont think that the N/S devide really plays much of a role at all except at the extremes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Poki_ View Post
    I see that with Dom N mostly, but not with secondary, tertiary Ns. So is there really an S/N devide? or is it only among Dom N vs Dom S? I was raised with Ns and have no issues what soever maintaining a satisfying conversation. Especially with Dom Ni. Its only when I want to be argumentative for the sake of getting a point across or something is it no longer enjoyable for dom Ni, but Dom Ne is different.

    I dont think that the N/S devide really plays much of a role at all except at the extremes.
    Yes I agree it's very unhealthy to be so extreme.
    It's cool to converse with people who understand how Myers work because you'd have to require some Ne function to see patterns in other people. I could never have a subject like this in person because I just don't know anyone who understands it to the extent I do. That's why I joined this site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porcelain Hearts View Post
    Yes I agree it's very unhealthy to be so extreme.
    It's cool to converse with people who understand how Myers work because you'd have to require some Ne function to see patterns in other people. I could never have a subject like this in person because I just don't know anyone who understands it to the extent I do. That's why I joined this site.
    I see patterns, i just dont focus on patterns much at all. With me its more that peoples traits remind me of other people. Thats how my patterns are noticed. More so visually in a sensory manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Poki_ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Porcelain Hearts View Post
    I will say most of my deep connections come from illustrious conversations with N's, but there is no denying the absolute rich instinct of an S's ability to live in the moment, uninhibited by imaginary doubt. Even ISFP's, with their Introverted-Perceiving attributes, still react heavily on their senses and are often known to be very good athletes. Sensors live a "practical" life and are more comfortable manipulating constituents than the big idea itself. So they certainly live closer to their word than we Intuitives do.
    So the second part thats bolded pretty much knocks the validity of the first Is the whole N thing in your head or is it real?

    Hopefully an S manipulates you into thinking he is an N
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Poki_ View Post
    I see that with Dom N mostly, but not with secondary, tertiary Ns. So is there really an S/N devide? or is it only among Dom N vs Dom S? I was raised with Ns and have no issues what soever maintaining a satisfying conversation. Especially with Dom Ni. Its only when I want to be argumentative for the sake of getting a point across or something is it no longer enjoyable for dom Ni, but Dom Ne is different.

    I dont think that the N/S devide really plays much of a role at all except at the extremes.
    perhaps it is a dom thing. i honestly have a hard time having lasting, meaningful-to-me conversation with certain S people sometimes. but my Ne is off the charts, so perhaps it's not surprising. i assume they feel like i am pretty slow when it comes to understanding the basic fundamentals of the world, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    perhaps it is a dom thing. i honestly have a hard time having lasting, meaningful-to-me conversation with certain S people sometimes. but my Ne is off the charts, so perhaps it's not surprising. i assume they feel like i am pretty slow when it comes to understanding the basic fundamentals of the world, too.
    From my experience (I am ISTP, I just feel like claiming eSTP as thats who I want to be as it makes me happy, hence the little e) My meaning ful conversations with Ns dont normally last very long. The meaningful usually comes out pretty quick. Dont know why, thats just how it has always worked for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Poki_ View Post
    From my experience (I am ISTP, I just feel like claiming eSTP as thats who I want to be as it makes me happy, hence the little e) My meaning ful conversations with Ns dont normally last very long. The meaningful usually comes out pretty quick. Dont know why, thats just how it has always worked for me.
    that's an interesting observation. do you tend to have longer meaningful conversations with other Ss?

    i think perhaps i have an assumption that a conversation must be rather long to be meaningful, but i suppose there is no real reason for that.

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    I've had what seemed to be long meaningful conversations with S types, but I think sometimes in retrospect it turned out that I'd simply invested a lot of the "meaningfulness" myself (and they probably saw it as interesting, but not very meaningful.)

    I've learned the hard way that someone who has what seems to be a long meaningful conversation with you may simply be thinking of you as a curiosity and not much else.

    However, I think the same could occur with an N-N conversation. I don't think N-N is automatically going to be meaningful...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    I've had what seemed to be long meaningful conversations with S types, but I think sometimes in retrospect it turned out that I'd simply invested a lot of the "meaningfulness" myself (and they probably saw it as interesting, but not very meaningful.)

    I've learned the hard way that someone who has what seems to be a long meaningful conversation with you may simply be thinking of you as a curiosity and not much else.

    However, I think the same could occur with an N-N conversation. I don't think N-N is automatically going to be meaningful...
    Curiosity for some types is a good thing and can be better then meaningful for that person. Sometimes with those types the meaningful comes later. Kinda like a delayed response.
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