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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    You mean science really isn't a religion after all?
    No, but Scientism is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlip View Post
    No, but Scientism is.
    I'll let everybody form their own conclusions about that. Meanwhile, it should be mentioned that everything human has an illogical basis which then may be justified by reason and logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    Religion is not inherently illogical either. And I will need some examples of "illogical members of society."
    Which of the following pictures makes logical sense to you ?




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    All. God created the universe; it's not surprising he can walk on water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    I'll let everybody form their own conclusions about that. Meanwhile, it should be mentioned that everything human has an illogical basis which then may be justified by reason and logic.
    That sounds about right to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd Girl View Post
    All. God created the universe; it's not surprising he can walk on water.
    Moses wasn't God and he could move the sea.

    How could he split a sea in 2?

    Was Moses creating a force field inside the sea?

    If so, how?

    Why can't anyone create a force field in seas today ?

    And how would anyone create a large boat to fit all the species on earth?

    And how would someone gather all the species on earth?

    I just googled and: "Scientists have described over 1.7 million of the world's species of animals, plants and algae, as of 2010."

    Well I guess we could exclude the algae because they live in the sea. Although I guess the algae would die too, in case of a flood.

    How would Noah collect 1.4 millions of species ?

    And you need a male and a female otherwise he would have collected them for nothing, in the case of animals.

    So he would need, about let's say 2 million of species.

    If Noah would have lived 60 years from the point he was given the task, then he should have "collected" a species and brought it on the ship in 1.296 seconds.

    Not to mention that he would have needed a ship as large as a small city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd Girl View Post
    God created the universe; it's not surprising he can walk on water.
    It is surprising that he deems it necessary, though.

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    There's a broader question in the OP. What causes one to have faith in something unproven? Do logical thinkers have a more difficult time with this and why?
    No need to go into specific religious dogma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDP2525 View Post
    Who says you have to believe everything to believe in something? There's a broader question in the OP and no specific religion was named.
    Well it's safe to assume that most of us are Christians, so I'm not going to talk about Buddha.

    So, people who believe in Jesus should ignore the fact that, Moses would have needed 1.3 seconds to collect a species and bring it into the ship, in order to gather all the species on Earth, if he would have lived for 60 more years from the point he started everything?

    Well, unless God beamed all the animals on the ship.

    And there's more that doesn't make sense in this story.

    In the bible it didn't say that the glaciers melted and that's where the water came from. It states that it rained, until the highest mountains were covered by water. (from what I remember)
    Mount Everest has 8796 meters, where the hell would all that water come from? We don't have so much water.

    That's unless God decided to beam us some water.

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    And why would God need a Noah, a ship and a flood to kill 99% of life on earth ?

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