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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    I could see an ISFP, INTP or even an INTJ having trouble with this, but not an NFP. NFPs are the typological aristocracy of figurative language.
    I'm not so sure about that. My experience has been that NFJ is more the figurative sort compared to the NFPs. Maybe it has to do with Ni being the dominant or auxilary function. Sometimes its more difficult for me to read through heavily Ni laden materials than it is with more Ne stuff. Could just be me.

    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousFeeling View Post
    Having hyperactive Ti here, I prefer to get to the precise term or meaning that someone is communicating, and sometimes it may appear that I am interpreting what someone is saying literally. I've often filled in the meaning behind what is being said with my own thought process, and it's been inaccurate from time to time. It makes it less confusing and it either negates or supports what my intuition thinks.
    Same here. I'm still trying to decide if my hyperliteral tendencies are really just dominant Ti or if I've mistyped myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    ah it had nothing to being literal for me, it was because i didn't talk til i was 2 1/2 and trouble forming words I would know what i wanted to say but for some reason couldn't say it
    I went because I hadn't learnt to talk. I'd been effectively deaf until I had grommits put in my ears. The hearing specialist wanted to kick start the learning process for me. So for me, the ground work was laid down in six months, for verbal language proccessing (and reading, so it turns out), While most kiddies have years to learn how to talk like a four and half year old. Some things are bound to get a little scrambled in the proccess.
    But Lexicon got the jist of what I meant.
    BTW, I still have trouble getting words out, and finding appropriate ones when stressed. Me, having a brain frizt, not understanding unless it's put very literally is that not uncommon. It now only happens when I'm tired, or overwhelmed, or if I'm really honest in new situations.
    I just thought it was curious, you'd gone to speech therapy as well. Maybe it's a left brained thing, seeing as other people identify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    ah it had nothing to being literal for me, it was because i didn't talk til i was 2 1/2 and trouble forming words I would know what i wanted to say but for some reason couldn't say it
    Late talkers aren't uncommon. I'm thinking that when you first started talking you immediately used full sentences?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    Late talkers aren't uncommon. I'm thinking that when you first started talking you immediately used full sentences?
    actually no
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalViolet View Post
    I went because I hadn't learnt to talk. I'd been effectively deaf until I had grommits put in my ears. The hearing specialist wanted to kick start the learning process for me. So for me, the ground work was laid down in six months, for verbal language proccessing (and reading, so it turns out), While most kiddies have years to learn how to talk like a four and half year old. Some things are bound to get a little scrambled in the proccess.
    But Lexicon got the jist of what I meant.
    BTW, I still have trouble getting words out, and finding appropriate ones when stressed. Me, having a brain frizt, not understanding unless it's put very literally is that not uncommon. It now only happens when I'm tired, or overwhelmed, or if I'm really honest in new situations.
    I just thought it was curious, you'd gone to speech therapy as well. Maybe it's a left brained thing, seeing as other people identify.
    I was tested for deafness at 18 months. I wasn't deaf
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    It's like this:

    Figurative: Ni
    (I don't know what Se is)

    Creative: Ne
    Literal: Si

    See how I describe functions by sort of labeling it in a really simple single-meaning way? that's Si. INFP has tertiary Si so that must be it.

    But in order to really understand this, you have to look at the differences between Pi and Pe. Pi deals with meanings, forms, and concepts(something that has a form) while Pe deals with connections, streams, relationships etc.. When you're talking about figurative vs. literal, you're talking about things that are purely definitional or semantic-related, which is Pi. It's something that is "perceived" instead of something you are currently "perceiving." INTP's likes to "establish" things by pointing out the truth behind things, and the best function to "establish" a meaning is Si. You can see this going on a lot in mathematics. The symbols in math are not some mystical voodoo shit(although the proper term would be "non-contextual"), they are universal meanings with single-definitions to be used in all conceivable mathematical context(which is technically only one context) and are consistently being "related abstractedly", now that is Ne. Ni, on the other hand, does not like to establish meanings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    I was tested for deafness at 18 months. I wasn't deaf
    So you were kinda of like a stutterer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalViolet View Post
    So you were kinda of like a stutterer?
    no
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craft View Post
    It's like this:

    Figurative: Ni
    (I don't know what Se is)

    Creative: Ne
    Literal: Si

    See how I describe functions by sort of labeling it in a really simple single-meaning way? that's Si. INFP has tertiary Si so that must be it.
    That's clearly a non sequitur. You can't say what's it without actually getting to know a person. Jungian functions are not some magical shortcut around this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    no
    You couldn't connect the words to the sound? or your mouth round the sounds?
    (Or I could just give up with my stupid theory.)
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