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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalViolet View Post
    It's not that weird.When I was going to Speech therapy (aged four), I used to call butterflies, Flutterbys...there are a couple of other examples, but thats the one I remember, because I still do it.
    Or some times, when there is no frame of reference that fits the context.
    Happened a lot more in my teens and early 20's, when memory or general knowledged failed ( or I had no experience at all of the situation), and I had nothing to extropolate out with. Also when I was in South Korea. I was flying blind there, as again, no frame of reference. Is awkard, but I don't think Prp's NFP card should be revoked, for taking things literally.
    I was in speech therapy as well at age 4
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    I was in speech therapy as well at age 4
    That's actually kinda a freaky coincident, with the topic and all.
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    ah it had nothing to being literal for me, it was because i didn't talk til i was 2 1/2 and trouble forming words I would know what i wanted to say but for some reason couldn't say it
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    Okay, well you just perhaps have an issue in the English/literature department; it's not a big deal. There are other Ns who have a hard time in that area, too. I have an INXP father who isn't good in English/Literature, but he is a good handy man, a good bass player, and can see through people's motives that can surprisingly astound me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    ah it had nothing to being literal for me, it was because i didn't talk til i was 2 1/2 and trouble forming words I would know what i wanted to say but for some reason couldn't say it
    I think CrystalViolet might've been referring to the possibility that the speech therapy sessions had played some secondary role in how you process the meaning of words..
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    I don't know I made connections in literature all the time, I just had trouble figuring out the correct meaning and would take the words literally in my head.
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    You can't be literal and an N. The universe will split in two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    You can't be literal and an N. The universe will split in two.
    explains a lot, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    well can you. I'm very literal at times when someone says something metaphorical my first thought is picturing it literally. it took me years to figure out about 15 minutes didn't mean exactly 15 minutes and would get mad when it take 16 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    well can you. I'm very literal at times when someone says something metaphorical my first thought is picturing it literally. it took me years to figure out about 15 minutes didn't mean exactly 15 minutes and would get mad when it take 16 minutes.
    Same here. I think I attribute my situation to mild aspergers.

    Quote Originally Posted by bluestripes View Post
    there is also another type of literal-mindedness where one has difficulty understanding figures of speech (metaphor, simile, allegory, certain sorts of symbols etc.) they way they were intended. for instance, you would hear a poetic expression - such as, say, "the copper of the leaves is flowing quietly" or "the bells of the stars ring silently", if we take the work of my favorite poet sergei esenin - and you would think, how on earth are leaves like copper? or, how could stars ever be like bells and how it is possible for ringing to take place without any noise? you may be able to understand these expressions rationally and trace the semantic connections they were based on, but they would still make no sense or produce a feeling of distaste/discomfort. that would be more like genuine literal-mindedness.
    I think I have some difficulty with this sort of thing. I find it very mentally straining to parse such statements. I think I'll sort of get it but I always end up second guessing myself. I much prefer to read more straightforward things.

    Quote Originally Posted by bluestripes View Post
    on the other hand, i can be very bad with implied meanings. if someone' s speech is implicature-heavy and they drop hints without getting to the point, the likelihood is that i am not going to "get it". i usually ask people to tell me what they want from me outright, as this spares a lot of confusion and miscommunication on both sides. and i used to have difficulty understanding irony/sarcasm and humor as a child (i used to take everything seriously, which meant the most light-hearted comments left me insulted); these days, humor is fine, or at least slavic humor is, but i do occasionally miss irony, especially when the shift in voice tone is not that noticeable. that makes me wonder whether i might be S, too.
    I used to have alot of difficulty with this in my childhood. Again, I think mild aspergers is partly to blame. I'm alot better at this sort of thing now although I do miss the point on occasion. I do enjoy irony though, when I get it. It's one of my favorite forms of humor- hence my username.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledove View Post
    Just skimming a tad about what was said and all. Do you at least think about the connections of what they are saying?

    I think (not sure though) Intuitives are able to interpret information by "reading between the lines" of why somebody or something does this or that without anyone telling them. It's like being able to discern something whether it's people, poems, or objects without having a whole lot of knowledge about it...like a third eye!

    In answering your question...I really don't know. I like that stuff, but I usually sit down and think about it until I'm stumped and then go google it.

    Does that make sense?
    Yes, I do think alot about the connections and don't have too much trouble reading between the lines. I know that people don't always say what they mean and there's more than meets the eye. However I didn't always think that way. Again, in my childhood, I took everything very literally and rarely read between the lines. I just expected that people would say exactly what they meant always. It was only after a few times of learning that people didn't say what they meant and feeling like I was deceived that I learned to start reading between the lines. Again, could be Aspergers or maybe I really am an S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ginkgo View Post
    I know intuitives who have learned to take things literally to avoid miscommunication. I am one of them.
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