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    Default Letter #3: T or F - are you a Thinker or a Feeler?

    Wrote on about the third letter. I want to hit some of the broader connotations of each letter, that are not always covered by the established litterature. As I said, a lot of the mainstream litt. uses weasel words and is very vague. Sometimes, something is implied (such as N > S) but never stated directly. I'd like to get past this, but the danger is of course that one goes wrong, which I may well have done. But be sure to check it out and get back to me with (helpful) criticism and/or personal impressions of the text.

    People who have a strong preference for Feeling generally take pride in seeing themselves as empathetic, considerate, friendly, generous, and helpful. Some Feelers even experience such a strong sense of concern and involvement with regards to the problems of others that they can feel compelled to drop what they are doing and offer their aid to the other. Conversely, people who prefer Thinking more often take pride in being critical, logical, insightful and truthful. Taking a darker, less optimistic view of human nature than their Feeling counterparts, they are also less prone to spontaneously help people who are not their close friends or where they do not see a 'rational' reason to do so.
    Another thing that could be nice is if people would do the same thing as they did in the other thread and bold the things that they think applies to them. For example, I am T and:

    T / Thinking

    Logic over sentiment
    Critical, then supportive
    Decides with head
    Truth before tact
    Sees conflict as natural
    Good at being critical
    At ease with the impersonal
    Seeks to ignore emotion
    Interested in things-then-people
    Often prefer non-fiction

    F / Feeling

    Sentiment over logic
    Supportive, then critical
    Decides with heart
    Tact before truth
    Takes conflict personally
    Good at being appreciative
    At ease with the personal
    Attach to emotion
    Interested in people-then-things
    Often prefer fiction

    Of course, if your profile doesn't state your type, you must also say whether you are T or F for it to make any sense to the rest of us. That's some T right there
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    I think if you want to make a really realistic description that people can identify with, you'ld have to create a hybrid T/F description, cause thats what we all are. If you focus on either T or F people will never feel like they fit the description 100%, which can be an advantage or disadvantage dependant on what you want to achieve.
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    Ti and Te are very different. Te looks at external evidence for proving something to be correct. Ti looks at internal proof.

    Fi and Fe are very different. Fi sees opinions as subjective. Fe sees opinions as things that can be proven objectively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
    Wrote on about the third letter. I want to hit some of the broader connotations of each letter, that are not always covered by the established litterature. As I said, a lot of the mainstream litt. uses weasel words and is very vague. Sometimes, something is implied (such as N > S) but never stated directly. I'd like to get past this, but the danger is of course that one goes wrong, which I may well have done. But be sure to check it out and get back to me with (helpful) criticism and/or personal impressions of the text.



    Another thing that could be nice is if people would do the same thing as they did in the other thread and bold the things that they think applies to them. For example, I am T and:

    T / Thinking

    Logic over sentiment
    Critical, then supportive
    Decides with head
    Truth before tact
    Sees conflict as natural
    Good at being critical
    At ease with the impersonal
    Seeks to ignore emotion
    Interested in things-then-people
    Often prefer non-fiction

    F / Feeling

    Sentiment over logic
    Supportive, then critical
    Decides with heart
    Tact before truth
    Takes conflict personally
    Good at being appreciative
    At ease with the personal
    Attach to emotion
    Interested in people-then-things
    Often prefer fiction

    Of course, if your profile doesn't state your type, you must also say whether you are T or F for it to make any sense to the rest of us. That's some T right there
    You did not make a choice on a couple of those. Do you seek to ignore emotion, or attach to emotion?
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    Emotions are irrelevant you'll be assimilated into our "we dream the world up to be as we want" neverending blablabla
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    You did not make a choice on a couple of those. Do you seek to ignore emotion, or attach to emotion?
    Maybe it's the "I don't really relate to either extreme" option. At least, that's how I'm gonna treat it.

    In the following, strikeout doesn't apply to me at all, bold applies to me, untouched somewhat applies but not to any great strength.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
    T / Thinking

    Logic over sentiment
    Critical, then supportive
    Decides with head
    Truth before tact
    Sees conflict as natural
    Good at being critical
    At ease with the impersonal
    Seeks to ignore emotion
    Interested in things-then-people
    Often prefer non-fiction

    F / Feeling

    Sentiment over logic
    Supportive, then critical
    Decides with heart
    Tact before truth
    Takes conflict personally
    Good at being appreciative
    At ease with the personal
    Attach to emotion
    Interested in people-then-things
    Often prefer fiction
    so many bolds.. what have I done..

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    My answers are bolded:

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post

    T / Thinking

    Logic over sentiment
    Critical, then supportive
    Decides with head
    Truth before tact
    Sees conflict as natural
    Good at being critical
    At ease with the impersonal
    Seeks to ignore emotion
    Interested in things-then-people
    Often prefer non-fiction

    F / Feeling

    Sentiment over logic
    Supportive, then critical
    Decides with heart
    Tact before truth
    Takes conflict personally
    Good at being appreciative
    At ease with the personal
    Attach to emotion
    Interested in people-then-things
    Often prefer fiction
    None of the above implies that I am an unfeeling robot. I can have my "heart" moments, but my tendency is to go toward the "head."
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    T / Thinking

    Logic over sentiment
    Critical, then supportive
    Decides with head
    Truth before tact
    Sees conflict as natural
    Good at being critical
    At ease with the impersonal
    Seeks to ignore emotion
    Interested in things-then-people
    Often prefer non-fiction

    F / Feeling

    Sentiment over logic
    Supportive, then critical
    Decides with heart
    Tact before truth
    Takes conflict personally
    Good at being appreciative
    At ease with the personal
    Attach to emotion
    Interested in people-then-things
    Often prefer fiction

    Not all these seemed either/or to me. I try to take a balanced approach to emotion, I listen to it, but I don't let it drive me. I personally don't see how 'things' are different than 'people'. Things are ultimately what people what and need and are effected by. I often prefer both fiction and non-fiction, though I'd have to do a lot of thinking to decide which I more often prefer.

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    T / Thinking

    Logic over sentiment
    Critical, then supportive
    Decides with head
    Truth before tact
    Sees conflict as natural

    Good at being critical
    At ease with the impersonal
    Seeks to ignore emotion
    Interested in things-then-people
    Often prefer non-fiction

    F / Feeling

    Sentiment over logic
    Supportive, then critical
    Decides with heart
    Tact before truth
    Takes conflict personally
    Good at being appreciative
    At ease with the personal
    Attach to emotion
    Interested in people-then-things
    Often prefer fiction

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    T / Thinking

    Logic over sentiment
    Critical, then supportive
    Decides with head <- mostly
    Truth before tact
    Sees conflict as natural
    Good at being critical
    At ease with the impersonal
    Seeks to ignore emotion
    Interested in things-then-people
    Often prefer non-fiction


    F / Feeling

    Sentiment over logic
    Supportive, then critical
    Decides with heart
    Tact before truth
    Takes conflict personally
    Good at being appreciative
    At ease with the personal
    Attach to emotion
    Interested in people-then than-things
    Often prefer fiction

    I love fiction and nonfiction, and I use tact and truth accordingly, though admittedly, I am often too truthful. I also enjoy both people and things

    Not sure how to go about supportive then critical. No context. For example, with ideas, I am very critical. With other people being down, I may critique the situation but I may present a caring role in order to get the desired information so I can give them advice.
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