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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    The topic says something about S Vs. N, so if someone (with a dirty mind, no doubt) made the Eiffel Tower out to be phallic, then that would be the Intuitive contrast to a post the mostly concerned S or Si events.
    ty. makes sense now : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    by the way... I had a MUCH better thread on S v N

    I do believe that three toed hippopotamuses and soup were even mentioned in it!
    cute as xD

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    yes very much an N.


    Concrete
    Realistic
    Prize enjoyment
    Aware of current trends
    Lives in the present
    Often use straight talk
    Aware of surroundings
    Notices details
    Often like crime novels
    Practical
    Factual
    Observation over imagination
    Often content with status quo
    Make things happen
    Loyal to friends

    If American; more likely to be conservative


    N / Abstract

    Future-focused
    Sees possibilities
    Prize inspiration
    Aware of own inspiration
    Introspective about the past
    Often use difficult words
    Flighty ideas
    Imaginative

    Often dislike crime novels
    Reflects but does not always do
    Theoretical
    Imagination over observation
    Often restless with status quo
    Contemplate things
    See both sides


    If American; more likely to be liberal
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    S:

    Concrete (too vague)
    Realistic (too vague)
    Prize enjoyment (what is this?)
    Aware of current trends
    Lives in the present
    Often use straight talk

    Aware of surroundings
    Notices details
    Often like crime novels

    Practical
    Factual
    Observation over imagination
    Often content with status quo
    Make things happen
    Loyal to friends (what?)
    If American; more likely to be conservative (not applicable)

    N:

    Future-focused
    Sees possibilities

    Prize inspiration (what is this?)
    Aware of own inspiration
    Introspective about the past
    Often use difficult words
    Flighty ideas
    Imaginative

    Often dislike crime novels (If they focus too much on mundane details)
    Reflects but does not always do
    Theoretical
    Imagination over observation

    Often restless with status quo
    Contemplate things
    See both sides

    If American; more likely to be liberal (not applicable)

    questionable -

    how is loyalty to friends connected to being S., or, for that matter, to being any type whatsoever?

    prize enjoyment vs. prize inspiration: what is meant by this?

    future-focused, sees possibilities: i definitely am when it comes to spiritual or personal growth, but not so much when it comes to my physical lifestyle. i'm quite content with it and would rather not have it changed.

    concrete, realistic, practical: the terms are somewhat too vague. i suppose i could be any of those from time to time, though not nearly often enough.

    often uses straight talk: what exactly does this mean? i do value directness and honesty, and i seem to have the best rapport with forthright people. when i can be upfront, i am. but my speaking style itself is not direct at all - there is a lot of meandering, wandering around in circles and general incoherence.

    observation vs. imagination: to me, observation is vital because it fuels the imagination. i guess that can be interpreted as my finding imagination more important.

    making things happen: well, i would want to, very much so. whether or not i am going to procrastinate ad infinitum is another matter.

    living in the present: if this means being able to appreciate the beauty or awe-inspiring qualities of one's surroundings at any given time, then i do. if it means not "living inside one's head" most of the time, i do not.

    liking or disliking crime novels: i do like well-written detective stories, though mostly for the sake of trying to solve the mystery myself.

    appreciating enjoyment or inspiration: why isn't it possible to appreciate both? i do.

    i guess i am N. based on this.
    "i love deadlines. i like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (c) douglas adams

    "there are only two ways to live your life. one is as though nothing is a miracle. the other is as though everything is a miracle." (c) albert einstein

    "if only i could grow with my eyes - like these leaves - into the depth" (c) sergei esenin

    "god is in the details" (c) proverb

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestripes View Post
    S:

    Concrete (too vague)
    Realistic (too vague)
    Prize enjoyment (what is this?)
    "Prize" is a verb meaning "to value."
    "Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth." Mike Tyson
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    "Prize" is a verb meaning "to value."
    ah yes. thanks. it's past 3 a.m. and my mind is starting to go blank when it comes to various strange little tidbits. i was staring at that word and it didn't occur to me that it could be a verb as well as a noun.

    that said, odd word usage, or feels that way.
    "i love deadlines. i like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (c) douglas adams

    "there are only two ways to live your life. one is as though nothing is a miracle. the other is as though everything is a miracle." (c) albert einstein

    "if only i could grow with my eyes - like these leaves - into the depth" (c) sergei esenin

    "god is in the details" (c) proverb

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestripes View Post
    ah yes. thanks. it's past 3 a.m. and my mind is starting to go blank when it comes to various strange little tidbits.

    that said, odd word usage, or feels that way.
    I almost forgot to mention: "Loyal to friends" is opposed to "sees both sides." I can identify with this point in some interesting ways. I personally can't stand bias toward friends, nepotism, and other things of that nature. For example, I stated to my Sensor friend that I didn't like this local tire store, and he became incensed toward me because the store is owned by a friend of his. Well la de dah!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    I almost forgot to mention: "Loyal to friends" is opposed to "sees both sides." I can identify with this point in some interesting ways. I personally can't stand bias toward friends, nepotism, and other things of that nature. For example, I stated to my Sensor friend that I didn't like this local tire store, and he became incensed toward me because the store is owned by a friend of his. Well la de dah!
    How is that even relevant? Would the tire store be worse if his enemy owned it? I disagree with your S friend. It annoys me when people change their opinions about something because of that.

    Do not like this list. Some of the S things were insulting (Probably my shadow Se dislike)

    S:

    Concrete
    Realistic
    Prize enjoyment (this is not even related to inspiration)
    Aware of current trends (NO)
    Lives in the present (Definite NO)
    Often use straight talk (Being clear and concise, or having a small lexicon?)
    Aware of surroundings (Sort of. I can point out things, and I'm going off on a Si tangent from my experiences with stuff in my surroundings)
    Notices details (I might not think so at the time... but see above)
    Often like crime novels (I hate crime novels. Hate hate hate)
    Practical (Pragmatic would be a better word)
    Factual
    Observation over imagination (Why can it not be BOTH? I observe and imagine from it. I thought imagination was something that came with observing (ne?) but I guess not)
    Often content with status quo (I can always see ways to improve)
    Make things happen (I prefer coming up with the plan and monitoring)
    Loyal to friends (Dunno, never really had to test my loyalty)

    N:

    Future-focused (Half future, half past)
    Sees possibilities (how on earth is this incompatible with realistic?)
    Prize inspiration (inspiration is how I get ideas)
    Aware of own inspiration (what does that even mean?)
    Introspective about the past (This is so me. This is HOW I THINK. Why is this N?)
    Often use difficult words (I expect people to know them, and I keep getting surprised that they don't
    Flighty ideas (There isn't a problem with the ideas themselves! You can have fancies, the S police won't come down and kill you)
    Imaginative (I would like to think so)
    Often dislike crime novels
    Reflects but does not always do (I couldn't do all that I reflect upon in a human lifespan!)
    Theoretical (I like theories... as long as you acknowledge them as just theories)
    Imagination over observation (Again, why not both?)
    Often restless with status quo (How could anybody just be content with it?)
    Contemplate things (I thought all humans did this)
    See both sides (YES. I have a complusion to play devil's advocate)
    I don't see any invisible treasure chests.

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    • Enneagram? 6 with a strong 7 wing
    • Brony? Yes
    • Stereotypes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    I almost forgot to mention: "Loyal to friends" is opposed to "sees both sides." I can identify with this point in some interesting ways. I personally can't stand bias toward friends, nepotism, and other things of that nature. For example, I stated to my Sensor friend that I didn't like this local tire store, and he became incensed toward me because the store is owned by a friend of his. Well la de dah!
    i can identify with this too. except i wouldn't have thought of it as an S trait - if anything, it seems to be more of an unhealthy F trait, on par with manipulative tendencies and insincerity as part of unhealthy Fe. and i would not equate loyalty with favoritism. to be to loyal is to keep promises and to support one's friends in need; to show favoritism is to have an undue preference for one's friends even where this is unreasonable, illegal or unfair toward other people. this is a confusion of terms.
    "i love deadlines. i like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (c) douglas adams

    "there are only two ways to live your life. one is as though nothing is a miracle. the other is as though everything is a miracle." (c) albert einstein

    "if only i could grow with my eyes - like these leaves - into the depth" (c) sergei esenin

    "god is in the details" (c) proverb

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestripes View Post
    i can identify with this too. except i wouldn't have thought of it as an S trait - if anything, it seems to be more of an unhealthy F trait, on par with manipulative tendencies and insincerity as part of unhealthy Fe. and i would not equate loyalty with favoritism. to be to loyal is to keep promises and to support one's friends in need; to show favoritism is to have an undue preference for one's friends even where this is unreasonable, illegal or unfair toward other people. this is a confusion of terms.
    Yes, not an S trait. And I agree. Loyalty to friends does not mean loyalty to their opinions.
    I don't see any invisible treasure chests.

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