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    Quote Originally Posted by senza_tema View Post
    Thus far:

    # of posts by Ne users: 38
    # of posts by Ni users: 18
    After briefly looking at this thread a few days ago, I figured this is what would happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    Maybe Ne users talk too much compared to most-
    Or maybe Ni users just don't talk enough compared to the general population.
    Or there happens to be more Ne than Ni users active today!
    Or more Ne users in general, since there are more Ne users in the general public-
    Or maybe some Ne users are mistyped and should really be Ni,
    And visa versa-
    Or maybe this type of topic is more appealing to an Ne user!
    Or!- (wanders off rambling)
    Quote Originally Posted by pinkgraffiti View Post
    I'll help you: or maybe a meteor came down from the sky today and killed most of the Ni population. Could be...!
    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    Or... Ne types pretty much rule this forum
    Or maybe we find you all obnoxious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by redcheerio View Post
    Question for Ni: How do you approach brainstorming?

    Do you enjoy it? Leave it up to the Ne-ers? Be the one to eliminate the ideas you think won't work and focus on the good ones?
    I hate brainstorming.... it tends to confuse and overwhelm me (for the lack of a better word)..... get to the point dammit (my typical thinking). On the other hand, I hate confined thinking like outlines, flow charts.
    EDIT: However, if an Ne user wants a full on analysis, then my Ni is happy to oblige.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Or maybe we find you all obnoxious...
    Oooh perspective shift....

    But then the question remains of what is the nature of this theoretical obnoxiousness that is acting as the Ni repellant. Too many questions? (If I don't get an answer to this I have a good sense of my answer )

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    Oooh perspective shift.... But then the question remains of what is the nature of this theoretical obnoxiousness that is acting as the Ni repellant. Too many questions? (If I don't get an answer to this I have a good sense of my answer )
    I'll answer by responding to redcheerio.

    Quote Originally Posted by redcheerio View Post
    Question for Ni: How do you approach brainstorming?

    Do you enjoy it? Leave it up to the Ne-ers? Be the one to eliminate the ideas you think won't work and focus on the good ones?
    I have no problem with brainstorming.

    What I do have a problem with is stupid brainstorming.

    Brainstorming is often conducted as an attempt to discover the causality of a particular phenomenon.

    "Ok, so what's causing this? Possibility A? Possibility B? Possibility C?"

    There are answers that are more useful and answers that are less useful to reach the proper conclusion.

    You could put these answers on a spectrum of usefulness, one side being absolutely useless, the other being absolutely useful.

    My problem with Ne is that it seems to have little regard for where a possibility falls on this spectrum of usefulness.

    By contrast, from the very get-go, I evaluate every possibility as to where it likely falls on this spectrum.

    I use every facet of my brain to arrive at this conclusion; it's one of the things I'm good at.

    Ne-ers seem to just throw random shit against the wall.

    It's obnoxious, and doesn't help accomplish the goal.

    This is why I argued in one of my earliest started threads here that there's something about Pi that is instrinsically linked to Judging.

    By its very nature, Pi seems to be looking for those most important possibilities, which then helps it accomplish a Je imperative.

    So, if I'm brainstorming with others, there's probably some imperative we're trying to accomplish.

    And Ne'ers often seem to derail and inefficiently go about accomplishing that imperative.

    They are often more damaging to the process than beneficial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I have no problem with brainstorming.

    What I do have a problem with is stupid brainstorming.
    My problem with Ne is that it seems to have little regard for where a possibility falls on this spectrum of usefulness.
    Yeah this parallels my thoughts on brainstorming - although I probably would've stated my position more diplomatically(hey I'm a Fe-user).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Yeah this parallels my thoughts on brainstorming - although I probably would've stated my position more diplomatically (hey I'm a Fe-user).
    Yes, well, as Orobas said recently:

    Quote Originally Posted by Orobas
    Z's ideas are crafted and solid or questioning and sometimes offensive.
    Or, in short, I'm kind of an asshole.

    ^^ That being said, when it comes to creativity, I think Ne is priceless.

    I give made props to many an ENTP for the hilarious connections they make.

    I also love the lyrics and poetry made by many an NFP; my favorite lyricist is an INFP.

    I think Ne is the function most highly associated with creativity, and properly so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I'll answer by responding to redcheerio.



    I have no problem with brainstorming.

    What I do have a problem with is stupid brainstorming.

    Brainstorming is often conducted as an attempt to discover the causality of a particular phenomenon.

    "Ok, so what's causing this? Possibility A? Possibility B? Possibility C?"

    There are answers that are more useful and answers that are less useful to reach the proper conclusion.

    You could put these answers on a spectrum of usefulness, one side being absolutely useless, the other being absolutely useful.

    My problem with Ne is that it seems to have little regard for where a possibility falls on this spectrum of usefulness.

    By contrast, from the very get-go, I evaluate every possibility as to where it likely falls on this spectrum.

    I use every facet of my brain to arrive at this conclusion, and it's one of the things I'm good at.

    Ne-ers seem to just throw random shit against the wall.

    It's obnoxious, and doesn't help accomplish the goal.

    This is why I argued in one of my earliest started threads here that there's something about Pi that is instrinsically linked to Judging.

    By its very nature, Pi seems to be looking for those most important possibilities, which then helps it accomplish a Je imperative.

    So, if I'm brainstorming with others, there's probably some imperative we're trying to accomplish.

    And Ne'ers often seem to derail and inefficiently go about accomplishing that imperative.

    They are often more damaging to the process than beneficial.
    Z, said it more intelligently. I can totally relate. With Ne users, it can seem like trying to find the needle in the haystack cutting through the fluff. While I am analyzing the first few possibilities, Ne users will come up w/ 20 more. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glycerine View Post
    While I am analyzing the first few possibilities, Ne users will come up w/ 20 more. lol
    The Hydra effect as we now know it in this thread.

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    BEWARE.

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    Oh, and here comes NiTe...


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