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    Default Fi is self-centered.

    In the spirit of the Fe Fakeness thread...

    It has recently been mentioned that Fi is self-centered. Do you believe this statement to be true?
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    Partially true, partially untrue.
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    In a manner of speaking Fi is self-centered, because the only thing one can perceive is one's own emotions, and so empathy is exhibited as an intellectual exercise of 'how would that make me feel'. So this system of empathy is not really related to the feelings of others but the projection of the self's feelings on others; which can be described as self-centered, however I think you'll find Fi users are far more accommodating and sympathetic than Fe users, as the saying goes, Do for others as you would have done unto you- is characteristic of Fi and not Fe.
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    the same could be said for fe imo because it is YOU who is defining what is good for the group...others may think differently...like i think what's best is that people remain true to themselves...not just me and my definitions of what should be.
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    I'm no expert, but I think that while Fe at an unhealthy extreme can be manipulative and yes, "fake", Fi at an unhealthy extreme can be selfish and thoughtless of others' feelings. But...those are the unhealthy extremes.
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    Yes, it is self-centred. That's not the same thing as selfish, although of course it can be that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zang View Post
    In a manner of speaking Fi is self-centered, because the only thing one can perceive is one's own emotions, and so empathy is exhibited as an intellectual exercise of 'how would that make me feel'. So this system of empathy is not really related to the feelings of others but the projection of the self's feelings on others; which can be described as self-centered.
    This.

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    I think this page explains it well, as it applies to NFs in general...

    Idealists devote much of thier time to pursuing their own identity, their personal meaning, what they signify-their true Self. It is not, mind you, that they are self-centered, self-serving, or selfish; they do focus on the Self of others as surely as their own. But whether their own or another's, NF's are centered on the Self, concentrated on it, committed to it. And the Self upon which they focus is not the Self that the other types think of when they use the word. To the SP's, SJ's, and the NT's, the word 'self' (when they even bother to think about it) simply indicates their separateness from other people, or, at most, their individual actions or their point of view. To the Idealists, however, Self has a capital "S" and is a special part of the person- kind of personal essence or core of being, the vital seed of their nature, not unlike the Soul or Spirit of religious thought. NF's are passionate about finding this true Self, about becoming who they are, or self-actualized. Idealists often dedicate their lives to this kind of self-actualization-seeking to become realized, trying to get in touch with the person they were meant to be, and to have an identity which is truly theirs. "How can I become the person I really am?" they ask.

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    i don't know about all fi-users, but in my case hell yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    I think this page explains it well, as it applies to NFs in general...
    Definitely! I always understood that to be extremely selfish though.
    or...
    "Self-ish".

    It has driven me nuts- the constant analysis, reanalysis of self, where I belong in the world as a whole, changing and reinventing. It seems so wrong. My Fi value goes against selfishness, but my Fi is the thing that makes me selfish.

    With a capital S I suppose.
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