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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamishi View Post
    Actually, based on his writings he is most likely an INFJ. Too lazy to explain why more than everything he wrote always had such an Ni perspective and focus.
    It's not just that, Jung's entire life was influenced by Ni. His biography is far more illuminating and relevant than his writing style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    It's just the usual "argument from writing style."
    As this is just the usual this-is-just-the-usual-x-argument argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    As this is just the usual this-is-just-the-usual-x-argument argument.
    All you have to do is show me your theory of how writing style can be used to determine type...

    Didn't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleda View Post
    Ti-Ni looping ISTP
    Ti-Ni looping ISTP wouldnt say that he isnt good with sensation and always had good intuition
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    It's just the usual "argument from writing style."
    And I think all you're doing is the typical Ti-dom move of writing something off without giving it a proper listen.

    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Ti-Ni looping ISTP wouldnt say that he isnt good with sensation and always had good intuition
    Why?

    An INTJ in an NiFi loop might say he's bad with objectively thinking but always been good with his own personal feelings about things.

    I've also seen it claimed in enough places to believe the claim to be true that he originally typed himself ISTP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Why?

    An INTJ in an NiFi loop might say he's bad with objectively thinking but always been good with his own personal feelings about things.

    I've also seen it claimed in enough places to believe the claim to be true that he originally typed himself ISTP.
    these loops are something situational and not things that last from early childhood to adulthood.

    this ISTP argument comes from when jung said something along in the lines that "as a scientist i use thinking and sensation foremost". but thats pretty obvious because making scientific observations you kinda need to look at what is, make logical observations about it and not get carried away with intuitive ideas too much. INTPs are perfectly capable of using what jung called concrete thinking, it means thinking led by sensation, INTPs do this by abstracting from sensations via thinking. this is what any good scientist needs to be doing foremost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Ti-Ni looping ISTP wouldnt say that he isnt good with sensation and always had good intuition
    He also said he was a sensation type. He's either INTP or ISTP. Definitely not an Ni dom. His feeling function was inferior. Everything he wrote was pure Ti.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleda View Post
    He also said he was a sensation type. He's either INTP or ISTP. Definitely not an Ni dom. His feeling function was inferior. Everything he wrote was pure Ti.
    from what i said on post above:

    "this ISTP argument comes from when jung said something along in the lines that "as a scientist i use thinking and sensation foremost". but thats pretty obvious because making scientific observations you kinda need to look at what is, make logical observations about it and not get carried away with intuitive ideas too much. INTPs are perfectly capable of using what jung called concrete thinking, it means thinking led by sensation, INTPs do this by abstracting from sensations via thinking. this is what any good scientist needs to be doing foremost."
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    these loops are something situational and not things that last from early childhood to adulthood.
    If one was absurdly introverted, I don't see why it's not a possibility it could be one's dominant mode of cognition throughout life.

    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    this ISTP argument comes from when jung said something along in the lines that "as a scientist i use thinking and sensation foremost". but thats pretty obvious because making scientific observations you kinda need to look at what is, make logical observations about it and not get carried away with intuitive ideas too much. INTPs are perfectly capable of using what jung called concrete thinking, it means thinking led by sensation, INTPs do this by abstracting from sensations via thinking. this is what any good scientist needs to be doing foremost.
    Noted.

    If that's the only place it comes from (which I'm not sure it is), then that's a reasonable explanation.

    It still doesn't discount the possibility that he's a type other than INTP, though.

    In fact, that argument serves to discount in determining his type any time he mentions what functions he uses, including in the Freeman interview.

    And, frankly, no one has come close to dealing with what I originally brought up in this post: http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...=1#post1685476

    All of the arguments since have essentially been footnotes to what I wrote in that post.

    And much of what I cover there hasn't even been dealt with/touched upon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleda View Post
    He also said he was a sensation type. He's either INTP or ISTP. Definitely not an Ni dom. His feeling function was inferior. Everything he wrote was pure Ti.
    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    these loops are something situational and not things that last from early childhood to adulthood.

    this ISTP argument comes from when jung said something along in the lines that "as a scientist i use thinking and sensation foremost". but thats pretty obvious because making scientific observations you kinda need to look at what is, make logical observations about it and not get carried away with intuitive ideas too much. INTPs are perfectly capable of using what jung called concrete thinking, it means thinking led by sensation, INTPs do this by abstracting from sensations via thinking. this is what any good scientist needs to be doing foremost.
    And it's comments like these that really make me wonder if you have actually read Jung and understood the deeper parts of his cognition when reading him. The Fe perspective in his writing is extremely obvious, a little too obvious for a proclaimed Ti type. There are plenty of comments he's made when he mocks thinkers. Kind of strange if he considers himself to be Ti dominant. He also dislikes defining his work more than he absolutely has to, and he also tends to aim snide comments and remarks towards sensors.

    Just because Jung thinks he was X doesn't mean he is X. He's not perfect when it comes to self-awareness either.

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