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    Not sure if this has been pointed out but, ESTP as an Expert Classifier?!!! Surely, there must be some mistake- ESTPs are just not conceptual AT ALL, in fact all the ones I know have little tolerance for politics, philosophy etc, they only talk about the chicks they rooted, the drugs they snorted etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogface View Post
    Not sure if this has been pointed out but, ESTP as an Expert Classifier?!!! Surely, there must be some mistake- ESTPs are just not conceptual AT ALL, in fact all the ones I know have little tolerance for politics, philosophy etc, they only talk about the chicks they rooted, the drugs they snorted etc.
    Oh boy are you a troll? ESTPs are notorious for being politicians. There have been several SP presidents, including John F. Kennedy, bro.

    Get a clue.

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    No I'm not a troll and I'm not saying that all ESTPs are meatheads (they are very smooth and charming which makes them great politicians), but isn't it bleeding obvious that none of them spend time thinking about conceptual stuff, they are all go go action. They are not visionaries in any sense, that's just not their game. I'm just saying that this is a glaring error in Dario's work, and if this can't be explained adequately- how can you take this stuff credibly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogface View Post
    No I'm not a troll and I'm not saying that all ESTPs are meatheads (they are very smooth and charming which makes them great politicians), but isn't it bleeding obvious that none of them spend time thinking about conceptual stuff, they are all go go action. They are not visionaries in any sense, that's just not their game. I'm just saying that this is a glaring error in Dario's work, and if this can't be explained adequately- how can you take this stuff credibly?
    From the outside Se might seem like mindless "go go action", but it is Perception like every other Percieving function. It is not the redheaded stepchild of Perceiving functions...reduced to mindless actions. "All arms and no eyes". Action is just the byproduct, not the source.

    No, they're not visionaries, but they do pick up on trends and effective solutions nonetheless. Just not in the farseeing sense. But not being farseeing does not mean they can't conceptualize with what's in front of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogface View Post
    No I'm not a troll and I'm not saying that all ESTPs are meatheads (they are very smooth and charming which makes them great politicians), but isn't it bleeding obvious that none of them spend time thinking about conceptual stuff, they are all go go action. They are not visionaries in any sense, that's just not their game. I'm just saying that this is a glaring error in Dario's work, and if this can't be explained adequately- how can you take this stuff credibly?
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    Categorize & Define
    Region F4 highly active when subject
    defines a term or categorizes an
    observation.
    • Trying to figure out whether a particular
    animal is an aquatic mammal.
    • “Egyptian War [a card game] is like
    War except that…”
    • “Is this a grape?” (when blindfolded and
    asked to figure out a random assortment
    of objects)
    • What (assigned) meaning does a
    particular tarot card have?
    F4 can used for hunting,science,etc

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    Along time ago there was a show called home improvement.
    The shows main character showed alot of F4 and he was an ESTP

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    Wow, awesome. I hope they do more along this line, I'll have to leave this in the tabs and look more later. I think this is the kind of stuff I'm looking for when I continue to mindlessly log onto this website.
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    I just kind of ran through my own processes, (seemingly more accurate than MBTI itself), as suspected, heavy focus on the right side of the brain according to this chart... Front to back and in between. Except for F7. I think I use that one a lot. fp2, f4, t4, t6, and 02 on the right.. strong F7 on the left, C3, and sometimes T3 (all more toward the front of the brain and not as strong a usage except for F7.)
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    06/13 10:51:55 shortnsweet: !!!!
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    ^^^ are these based on Ne and Fi or cognitive skills you think you have

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