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    Default Is your shadow type really like your opposite gender, feminine or masculine, side?

    I'm not sure.

    I do think there is an observable difference in the way males and females of a certain type express themselves. However, the question is, does a a person of a certain type express their shadow type functions more as someone as the same gender or opposite gender who is their shadow type, would.

    For example, as an ESTJ female gone, did I express my INFP functions like an INFP male would?

    I used to have a lot of questions about my gender identity in the past, and am now of the belief that most of what we identify as gender differences is really just societally induced bullshit.
    However, I think you can't escape from the fact that there tend to be some natural differences between the genders. However, I don't these differences limit either gender at all or that one gender is more deficient than the other.

    I'd really like to aviod getting in a gender debate though and try to focus on the topic at hand. Do you think shadow type corresponds with your opposite gender?

    I think it might. Just based off of compatibilty and things.

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    The inferior function ais aligned with a complex called the anima or animus, which is opposite gender. So that's why the inferior function might carry a connotation of the opposite gender.
    It makes sense, as the ego chooses both a dominant gender identity, as well as a dominant function and dominant attitude. What is not preferred becomes suppressed into the unconscious, and likely forms a [unconscious] complete "image" of sorts, of this totally opposite entity you are incomplete without.

    So for me, Fe does seem to carry a definite female association to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    The inferior function ais aligned with a complex called the anima or animus, which is opposite gender. So that's why the inferior function might carry a connotation of the opposite gender. It makes sense, as the ego chooses both a dominant gender identity, as well as a dominant function and dominant attitude. What is not preferred becomes suppressed into the unconscious, and likely forms a [unconscious] complete "image" of sorts, of the totally opposite person you are incomplete without.
    wow. that is deep.

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    Anima isnt about inferior, its about the unconscious(that has been repressed like eric said). but the inferior is also in the unconscious since it has been repressed by the ego, thi which dominant function takes the largest portion of. erics definition of anima isnt jungian, even tho its similar to it. its true that when you look into your unconscious, you might have associations to opposite gender to some of the stuff, like when looking at inferior function in the unconscious, but thats not because inferior = anima/animus, its because they get associated in the unconscious, just like you associate your conscious ego to your real gender(except with homosexuals). read about the differentation from the pic on other topic, its about taking the functions(like inferior feom the unconscious, taking it away of these associations in the unconscious) and stuff like that
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    So there is no such think as a conscious feminine male?

    Don't have time to complete my thoughts right now I'll be back in a bit.

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    It's more like you project that onto the opposite sex in what you're attracted to or want. That means you actually might be attracted to men with those qualities, or simply project what you think is best upon them.

    Like say I actually have Te inferior...this means I'm going to be attracted to Te in the opposite sex, see it as being masculine and even sexy; possibly even the definition of what a man *should* be. We can even project this on to people who actually do not have that quality/function because it's what we want, and be disappointed when they actually are not that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    It's more like you project that onto the opposite sex in what you're attracted to or want. That means you actually might be attracted to men with those qualities, or simply project what you think is best upon them.

    Like say I actually have Te inferior...this means I'm going to be attracted to Te in the opposite sex, see it as being masculine and even sexy; possibly even the definition of what a man *should* be. We can even project this on to people who actually do not have that quality/function because it's what we want, and be disappointed when they actually are not that.
    This.

    The point is that the unconscious gets projected as a defence mechanism of the ego. ego doesent want to see things in self that contradict it, so it represses those things to unconscious, but in some cases the instinct from the unconscious(shadow) are too strong, so ego channels them on external things, aka projects them.

    Imo when it comes to anima(or other stuff in unconscious, like inferior function), its better to develop these things in you, to become conscious of them in self, instead of trying to find someone to fill this role in you.

    Not to mention when it comes to inferior projection, its like living in an illusionary world, because these projections have control over you and guide your conscious mind, usually to directions that the ego doesent want and cause dissrtess in this way. but when you have developed the inferior, you have the control for yourself and since developing inferior requires you to let go of your stubborn ego to some extend, you can find something the inferior guides you to sort of like pleasant surprice, because you might find something that the ego would otherwice reject, but what the self actually really likes.

    I think i rambled enough for now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    It's more like you project that onto the opposite sex in what you're attracted to or want. That means you actually might be attracted to men with those qualities, or simply project what you think is best upon them.

    Like say I actually have Te inferior...this means I'm going to be attracted to Te in the opposite sex, see it as being masculine and even sexy; possibly even the definition of what a man *should* be. We can even project this on to people who actually do not have that quality/function because it's what we want, and be disappointed when they actually are not that.
    That's far simpler than what I read... Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    That's far simpler than what I read... Thank you.
    Thats because its simplified quite alot and only explains a fraction of the anima and inferior
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Thats because its simplified quite alot and only explains a fraction of the anima and inferior
    Summaries are nice .

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