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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    Yeah I wasn't at all implying that "more introspective" automatically meant that it was quality introspection but if we're going to give that caveat, do we also give the caveat that extroverts don't necessarily have more or better awareness about others?

    I also wonder in regards to the OP, how introverted SJs fit into that, since typology often says that all SJs usually just follow along with what has already been established by someone else, sort of like drones.
    LOL to bolded. That is a very true statement. Extrovert =/= naturally good with or aware of others LOL.

    I also wanted to quickly say with regards to SJs following the established norm like drones...LOL. My ISFJ friend is anything but. In fact...her social and political views are so radical...I often can't comment on them on fb because my other friends would be like??? She is VERY MUCH an individual. Brilliant...and without any sort of 'herd mentality'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarryKnights View Post
    LOL to bolded. That is a very true statement. Extrovert =/= naturally good with or aware of others LOL.
    I think we generalize about these things just to streamline communication and for efficiency. I have this bad habit of focusing on the "outliers" instead of the majority that's underneath the bell curve and this drives one of my friends insane.

    I also wanted to quickly say with regards to SJs following the established norm like drones...LOL. My ISFJ friend is anything but. In fact...her social and political views are so radical...I often can't comment on them on fb because my other friends would be like??? She is VERY MUCH an individual. Brilliant...and without any sort of 'herd mentality'.
    I thought other types saw SJs as those who make up "the herd"?

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    Very generally, yes, I believe there's a definite correlation. That doesn't mean there aren't other factors as well, or that there aren't introverts with very poor self-awareness or extroverts with high self-awareness. I think the comparison to extroverts and people skills is a good one: your preferences can give you more opportunity to develop certain skills, but that doesn't mean you necessarily will, or that it's impossible to develop them otherwise.

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    Introversion doesn't equal introspection, but I'm sure there's a correlation. Word choice is important.
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    I always thought of it as extraverts being the social butterflies and the introverts as the exclusive club members lol.

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    Extraverts are just as capable of introspection as introverts (I myself being an example); it's just not as easy to spot, since we seem so manic a lot of the time . An extravert can take time off from other people and think deeply about his or herself, the same way an introvert can go out in public and mingle with others in a social setting. It just tends to be an energy drain; not that we won't like doing it, but I, for one, find myself struggling to keep my energy up after doing it. I can't speak for any introverts, though, but I'd imagine it would be the same feeling that they have in large social settings. I wouldn't imagine that being an introvert would make you automatically better at introspection, just more inclined to it. I know a few extraverts that don't know how to act in social situations, and I know a few introverts that are very good with people, even though they aren't the loudest or most energetic people around.

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    Indeed. If the occasion requires it, I can be quite the socialite. But after all the small talk, flirting, one-on-one's, and just mingling in general... I find that I REALLY have to take some time for myself afterwards. It can be quite exhausting to be constantly around other people. -chuckles to self- I really do admire the extraverts that keep up a five-hour phone conversation or make everyone feel involved so effortlessly.

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    I doubt the correlation because: One can reflect on their own thoughts alone or in public. Introspection can be an active state of mind where regardless of the place and situation, one can probe into the depth and significance of it to themselves.
    I or E both orient in opposite directions...and it's usually towards an object or a subject as for it's external or internal meaning. An introvert might very well focus on the thing and forgets to relate to it or find personal meaning for it. By the same token, an extrovert can be fully engaging with others while being reflective on themselves.

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    Introspect and intuit have the exact same meaning; both mean to look inward. Introvert means to turn inward and is an adjective in the typology context. So no, introverted =/= introspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    I've heard this and even thought this myself before. What do you think?

    in·tro·spec·tion
    noun \ˌin-trə-ˈspek-shən\
    Definition of INTROSPECTION
    : a reflective looking inward : an examination of one's own thoughts and feelings

    Examples of INTROSPECTION

    a moment of quiet introspection
    <not a man given to introspection, he grew impatient with his wife's constant need to discuss their relationship>
    Introverted awareness doesn't necessarily mean you deliberately examine, scrutinize, or praise your own thoughts. In fact, introversion suggests that one might be repulsed by influences that would disturb one's inner-world, even if those influences happen to be one's extraverted side. Yes, people are often that messy and conflicted.

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