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    Why should a rich person's money be made public property upon his death? Is it not still his money? Surely he has the right to give it to whomever he sees fit. Nobody has a right to just take it for "the greater good".
    But sir, your opinion is wrong.
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    How odd, this is an issue where I cannot affirmatively say I am on one side or another.

    I just don't know enough about how our political system *actually* works in order to form an opinion.

    People deserve/have the right, to keep what they've earned and to share that with their family.

    But a wealthy nation like ours should be able to support a substantially "good" universal health care program, and an excellent public education system.

    I dunno, I dunno, I dunno!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    I just don't know enough about how our political system *actually* works in order to form an opinion.
    Never take into account the system in place when deciding what SHOULD be in place.
    But sir, your opinion is wrong.
    TANSTAAFL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Galt View Post
    Republicans (right wing)
    Economy: liberal
    Social issues: centrist but conservative leaning

    Democrats (left wing)
    Economy: centrist but liberal leaning
    Social issues: liberal

    Libertarian
    Economy: liberal
    Social issues: liberal

    Leads me to believe that libertarians don't fall into either category.
    I think you're on the right track.

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    ^ I don't know what, if any, implications that has for this thread, lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    So it is too screwed up to simplify it? The only people I can imagine complaining loudly would be accountants.
    Oh, come now. My point is that other factors have to be altered before a flat tax is adopted. Part of the reason we even have the rich get taxed more is because of what a ludicrously innapropriate amount of money they make.
    Creating a flat tax before we've attempted to balance other aspects of the field would only inflame the inequality problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    How so? Virtually the only thing stopping people would be morals. I assure you that if I knew the government was going to take a large portion of my money upon my death, I wouldn't report it and I would make sure my family got it and knew how to spend it without getting caught.
    Well, in theory, that risk always exists. You will find no law that simply side-steps law-breakers. That's logically impossible. It's an entirely different issue.
    Anyone being taxed in anyway has an incentive to hide the truth from the government if they think they can do it.
    Someone hiding their money from tax collectors is much like a person that robs purses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Galt View Post
    Why should a rich person's money be made public property upon his death? Is it not still his money? Surely he has the right to give it to whomever he sees fit. Nobody has a right to just take it for "the greater good".
    Now you get to call me the immoral one. I don't think a corpse owns anything.
    Society needs that money, and can use that money, more than that dead guy can. I would argue, more than his children, too.
    Go to sleep, iguana.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    How odd, this is an issue where I cannot affirmatively say I am on one side or another.

    I just don't know enough about how our political system *actually* works in order to form an opinion.

    People deserve/have the right, to keep what they've earned and to share that with their family.

    But a wealthy nation like ours should be able to support a substantially "good" universal health care program, and an excellent public education system.

    I dunno, I dunno, I dunno!!!
    Hahaha. The ENFP I know proclaims herself an anarchist but usually advocates Socialist policies in practice!
    You silly things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Galt View Post
    Never take into account the system in place when deciding what SHOULD be in place.
    I was talking about my ignorance in regards to what and how exactly the government spends tax money, where does it all go???

    How is it being managed and distributed, where and to whom is it being distributed.

    I just don't know!!!!

    *feeling ignorant*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Society needs that money, and can use that money, more than that dead guy can. I would argue, more than his children, too.
    The fundamental difference between our philosophies is that you think need entitles people to things. I don't think need entitles a person to do anything but try harder to fill that "need".
    But sir, your opinion is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    I was talking about my ignorance in regards to what and how exactly the government spends tax money, where does it all go???

    How is it being managed and distributed, where and to whom is it being distributed.

    I just don't know!!!!

    *feeling ignorant*
    Who cares? Where SHOULD it go? Only then should you find out where it DOES go, and see where there are incongruities.
    But sir, your opinion is wrong.
    TANSTAAFL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Galt View Post
    The fundamental difference between our philosophies is that you think need entitles people to things. I don't think need entitles a person to do anything but try harder to fill that "need".

    Society exists out of need. The need is the basis of the ethic that creates society.
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