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    I am wondering if this is an extrovert/introvert issue, or something else?

    I have a close friend who will make statements like, "I never want to eat this kind of cheese again." I will try to remember never to serve them that cheese. Then later that same person will buy that kind of cheese and when I ask them, they say, "Well I just wasn't in the mood for it the day I said that."

    I don't understand this. If I make a statement about something like that, it is a permanant statement. Otherwise I would say something like, "I'm not in the mood for this cheese today."

    So do extroverts make statements that can change later, and introverts don't as much, or is this just maybe specific to this person?

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    I do that and change my mind all the time but would be hesitant to label it as I vs. E. Haven't there been times where you really just didn't like something but had grown to like it?

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    If it is an E/I difference, it is probably closer to that extraverts overexaggerate things more, in order to get a stronger response from the other person.
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    It could be a P/J difference... Js generally stick to their decisions where Ps tend to be more flexible...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiharu View Post
    It could be a P/J difference... Js generally stick to their decisions where Ps tend to be more flexible...
    I agree. Not sure why the OP would see this as an E/I thing. Perhaps extroverts like to talk more, and tend to exaggerate because it gets more of a reaction? Just a guess.
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    The person I know who does this is the biggest "J" you ever met. That's why I was thinking maybe it was E/I. It could have nothing to do with type, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily flower View Post
    The person I know who does this is the biggest "J" you ever met. That's why I was thinking maybe it was E/I. It could have nothing to do with type, though.
    does he also happen to be T? i could see ETJ making this sort of statements, naturally not all of them. strong judgment on the cheese from Te, but it doesent stay in introverted P, if he is lacking some Pi.
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    Maybe they're not intending you take everything they say to be literal but rather a figure of speech. Like a cat could pee on someone and they'd say that they hated cats. They don't necessarily mean they now hate every cat in the universe and maybe they'd find and adopt a cute one that doesn't pee on them the following week. I don't believe it's related to any letter in relation to type but rather the fact a lot of people stress things differently. It's much more of an issue in relation to grammar/speech/expression and the mutual understanding of what was said. You could perhaps elaborate on that and say that maybe an NT is more likely to assume that people should 'just know' what they mean than an NF who expresses how they feel. Reminds me of this.



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    I think ExxPs are the most likely to make definitive-sounding statements which they then completely contradict by their behaviour or comments later. And IxxJs are the least likely. It's more like thinking out loud for the people who seem to change their mind easily - or maybe they do change their mind easily. I don't relate to it at all. But then, I'm not going to say ExxPs always do this and IxxJs never do.

    I would suspect that extroverts are a bit more likely to think aloud and then change their mind, or whatever, than introverts, but it's probably more a J/P thing.

    In any case I certainly have learned that a lot of what many people say is pretty much meaningless. I really mean, almost completely meaningless. You just have to keep an eagle eye on what they actually do... I have been burned many times in various ways by believing too much of what people say and not keeping a close enough eye on their actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    If it is an E/I difference, it is probably closer to that extraverts overexaggerate things more, in order to get a stronger response from the other person.
    I think I'd lean toward that conclusion as well, seems plausible and less rigid than a direct E vs. I comparison.

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