Typology and Silent Number

[wildcat]

The two limits of nature. Light and temperature. You can never reach the speed of light and you can never go below absolute zero. I've always found that interesting.

One limit upon the other?
Maybe not.

 

[wildcat]

INTP

I > E
N > S
T > F
P > J

Dichotomies.
1234 = (T)4321

43 INTP Ti Ne ENTP 34
21 INTJ Ni Te ENTJ 12

0

etc ..

TNSF = (T)FSNT
FSNT = (T)TNSF

The dichotomy in the middle ground is set already.

 

[wildcat]

We roll down the dichotomies.

While we remove the sign, we retain the graph.
5 - 1 = 4
4 - 4 = 0
Eight functions.

Anterior

4
3
2
1

Posterior

1
2
3
4


First (and fifth !) function in the order of 12345678

The number at the top of the graph (posterior included !) equals the first function in the round:
ant/post (4 - 4).

EP
An agent in the first dichotomy. Extraverted perception.

IP
What does extraverted perception do?
It introverts the rational function. It is what we have.

EJ
An agent in the first dichotomy: Extraverted rational function.

IJ
Extraverted rational function introverts perception. It is what we have.

 

[ReflecTcelfeR]

We roll down the dichotomies.

While we remove the sign, we retain the graph.
4 - 4 = 0
Eight functions.

Anterior

4
3
2
1

Posterior

1
2
3
4


First (and fifth !) function in the order of 12345678

The number at the top of the graph (posterior included !) equals the first function in the round:
ant/post (4 - 4).

EP
An agent in the first dichotomy. Extraverted perception.

IP
What does extraverted perception do?
It introverts the rational function. It is what we have.

EJ
An agent in the first dichotomy: Extraverted rational function.

IJ
Extraverted rational function introverts perception. It is what we have.

I'm soaking all of this in. I'm still with you.

 

[wildcat]

I'm soaking all of this in. I'm still with you.

Thank you. I knew you would.

4 + 5 = 5 + 4 = 9 = 32 - 23
4 - 5 = - 1
5 - 4 = 1

2 + 3 = 3 + 2 = 4 + 1 = 1 + 4

 

[wildcat]

Thank you, friends.

And now back to the post 23. We are rolling down the dichotomies.

We dealt with the first and the fifth function of the function order 12345678. Anterior 4 and Posterior 1, respectively.


We had:

EP: Ne or Se.
IP: Ti or Fi
EJ: Fe or Te
IJ: Si or Ni

It means that if your first function is Ne, your fifth function is Se; if your first function is Se, your fifth functions is Ne.
If your first function is Ti, your fifth function is Fi; if your first function is Fi, your fifth function is Ti.

If your first function is Fe, your fifth function is Te; if your first function is Te, your fifth function is Fe.
If your first function is Si, your fifth function is Ni; if your first function is Ni, your fifth function is Si.

 

[darude11]

What is the reason and reasoning of this? I didn't got it. I had to google the silent number, and all I've got, is that it is number "not listed in phone book"
Why are you listing this? What is the meaning of this?
Does it have something to do with the order of functions (from strongest to weakest)?
Does it have something to do with relationships between functions?

I hav no idea!

 

[wildcat]

What is the reason and reasoning of this? I didn't got it. I had to google the silent number, and all I've got, is that it is number "not listed in phone book"
Why are you listing this? What is the meaning of this?
Does it have something to do with the order of functions (from strongest to weakest)?
Does it have something to do with relationships between functions?

I hav no idea!

All right. I shall try to explain. Sit tight. Eat a banana.

 

[wildcat]

EXPLANATION

Silent number is first of all about loci.
What is loci?

LOCI

Loci is about space in a room.

A ROOM

When you take a bus, you try to find a room. If all the seats are taken, you cannot find a seat.
Why?

Because a room is not infinite. It is only a given quantity of space.
As far as MBTI is concerned, this is what follows.

If your first function is Fi, your 8th function is Te.
Why?

9 - 1 = 8

If your second function is Fi, your 7th function is Te.

9 - 2 = 7

etc etc

In other words, Ti and Fe share a continuum.

A continuum is a room. As said, a room is not infinite. It is only a given quantity of space.

The given quantity: 9.
Why?

Loci

+ 4 + 3 + 2 + 1 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4

 

[wildcat]

Now we remove the minus party. How many minus numbers do we have? Four.

9 - 4 = 5

If your first function is Fi, your fourth function is Fe.
Why?

5 - 1 = 4

If your first function is Fi, you second function is Ne or Se.
Let us say it is Ne.

If your second function is Ne, your third function is Ni.
Why?

5 - 2 = 3

Now we have the ESTJ function order

Te Si Se Ti Fe Ni Ne Fi

 

[darude11]

So it is about order of functions by their... uuh... power? Strenght? Or how dominant they are?

 

[wildcat]

So it is about order of functions by their... uuh... power? Strenght? Or how dominant they are?

Yes I could say that. Strength is about dominance and power. The order of cognitive processes.

 

[wildcat]

Let us look at the I functions and their postition in the hierarchy.

1. Fi and Ti.

P introverts the rational function: Within P > J, I > E.
It follows IP assumes the top position, in anterior and posterior.
Bothwise, EP the second, IJ the third, EJ the ultimate one.

FI

anterior

+ 4 IFP Function 1.
+ 3 EFP Function 2.
+ 2 IFJ Function 3.
+ 1 EFJ Function 4.

posterior

- 1 ITP Function 5.
- 2 ETP Function 6.
- 3 ITJ Function 7.
- 4 ETJ Function 8.

 

[wildcat]

TI

anterior

+ 4 ITP Function 1.
+ 3 ETP Function 2.
+ 2 ITJ Function 3.
+ 1 ETJ Function 4.

posterior

- 1 IFP Function 5.
- 2 EFP Function 6.
- 3 IFJ Function 7.
- 4 EFJ Function 8.

 

[wildcat]

IP

The Rational Function introverts Perception.

NI

anterior

+ 4 INJ
+ 3 ENJ
+ 2 INP
+ 1 ENP

posterior

- 1 ISJ
- 2 ESJ
- 3 ISP
- 4 ESP

 

[wildcat]

SI

anterior

+ 4 ISJ Function 1.
+ 3 ESJ Function 2.
+ 2 ISP Function 3.
+ 1 ESP Function 4.

posterior

- 1 INJ Function 5.
- 2 ENJ Function 6.
- 3 INP Function 7.
- 4 ENP Function 8

 

[stalemate]

I'm just going to count decade 1 as starting with 1 B.C. and going through 9 A.D. and all the rest works itself out.

Stuck in loci again.

I love the moon.

 

[wildcat]

I'm just going to count decade 1 as starting with 1 B.C. and going through 9 A.D. and all the rest works itself out.

Stuck in loci again.

I love the moon.

Moon did not invent the calendar.
The priests did.

 

[wildcat]

Is the moon there when you do not look?
- Albert Einstein

The agent does not divide itself.
It only divides the object.

 

[darude11]

So... if I got it right, let's write own example.

ESFP's functions are in normal order these: Se Fi Te Ni Si Fe Ti Ne
Now, if I will have to write the power of these functions, it would go like this: Se Fi Si Fe 0 Ne Ti Te Ni (about the functions left from 0 I am not so sure... but I think it is right)