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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Newton wondered why the night sky is dark.
    Nobody is perfect.
    Zero: The paradox of the void.
    I wondered today if Jesus could divide by 0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    I wondered today if Jesus could divide by 0.
    The Alpha and the Omega.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    The Alpha and the Omega.
    Indeed. I'm glad I can have these talks with you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    Indeed. I'm glad I can have these talks with you!


    You are not so bad either.

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    A measure is a balance.
    Absolute zero does not measure.
    It is therefore it is absolute zero.

    Is the absolute zero inside?
    No.
    Is it outside?
    No.
    Where it is?
    It is not where.
    It is when.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    A measure is a balance.
    Absolute zero does not measure.
    It is therefore it is absolute zero.

    Is the absolute zero inside?
    No.
    Is it outside?
    No.
    Where it is?
    It is not where.
    It is when.
    The two limits of nature. Light and temperature. You can never reach the speed of light and you can never go below absolute zero. I've always found that interesting.

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    This conversation is hurting my brain!

    Do you guys mean that something is missing from the MBTI that needs to be added, or does it just need to be recognized that there's a zero there, without adding anything? Does that silent number measure anything in particular? What would it entail? My dot-connecting abilities are failing me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    This conversation is hurting my brain!

    Do you guys mean that something is missing from the MBTI that needs to be added, or does it just need to be recognized that there's a zero there, without adding anything? Does that silent number measure anything in particular? What would it entail? My dot-connecting abilities are failing me.
    Alternate take! A new idea I just formed... Or applied. In the JCF strucutre of let's say ESTJ .

    The order: Te - Ti - Si - Se - Ne - Ni - Fe - Fi (Bare with me here that order is identical what @wildcat gave for INTP (verify please)) as such 0 is in the very middle showing distinction between conscious and unconscious functions. Of course it's difficult to tell with this structure. In a different structure like Te - Si - Ne - Fi - Ti - Se - Ni - Fe. 0 can be seen as the link from unconscious to conscious worlds.

    /talking from my a**

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    This conversation is hurting my brain!

    Do you guys mean that something is missing from the MBTI that needs to be added, or does it just need to be recognized that there's a zero there, without adding anything? Does that silent number measure anything in particular? What would it entail? My dot-connecting abilities are failing me.
    We differentiate the number of the loci, and the number in the loci.
    The "add" is in the number of the loci. (+1). We only find what is already there.

    We cannot understand the complementary party of the functions if we do not know the exact number of the loci.
    Eight functions. 8 + 1 = 9.
    ESTJ has Te as the first function. The complementary party of Te is Fi. Where is Fi?
    9 - 1 = 8
    ESTJ has Fi as the 8th function.

    It is little different in Enneagram. What is the complementary position of E Nine?
    9/2 = 4.5
    The silent number is between 4w5 and 5w4.
    We see now the system of Enneagram has 9 silent numbers:
    The complementary party of E 8 is the silent number between 3w4 and 4w3, etc.

    The Enneagram has 36 types in the loci. (27 + 9)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    Alternate take! A new idea I just formed... Or applied. In the JCF strucutre of let's say ESTJ .

    The order: Te - Ti - Si - Se - Ne - Ni - Fe - Fi (Bare with me here that order is identical what @wildcat gave for INTP (verify please)) as such 0 is in the very middle showing distinction between conscious and unconscious functions. Of course it's difficult to tell with this structure. In a different structure like Te - Si - Ne - Fi - Ti - Se - Ni - Fe. 0 can be seen as the link from unconscious to conscious worlds.

    /talking from my a**


    The subject is conscious by reflection.

    Balance = weight and counterweight.
    0 = the counter.

    Weight tips.
    An odd number is a tip.

    16 does not odd.
    0 does not tip.

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