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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Neurosis can make you hate WHAT YOU ARE and make you want to be THE INFERIOR. Or...conversely, instead of conscious admiration, it can just make you subconsciously act out the issues of that inferior function. Or both.
    I always find this subject rather disconcerting. It adds whole new layers of complexity to the constant conflicts my ESTJ sister and I have had. Its crazy to think, we're each the embodiment of the other's failings

    I sometimes wonder if she has a INFP in the back of her mind berating her for everything she does wrong, like I have a ESTJ.
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    I've dreamt in my life dreams that have stayed with me ever after, and changed my ideas;
    they've gone through and through me, like wine through water, and altered the colour of my mind.

    - Emily Bronte

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    I always find this subject rather disconcerting. It adds whole new layers of complexity to the constant conflicts my ESTJ sister and I have had. Its crazy to think, we're each the embodiment of the other's failings

    I sometimes wonder if she has a INFP in the back of her mind berating her for everything she does wrong, like I have a ESTJ.
    Yeah it's supposed to be disconcerting and make you uncomfortable. It can be extraordinarily painful if you have serious issues.



    It's good to face them though. To me there's nothing more wonderful than FINALLY SEEING IT or FINALLY FACING IT or FINALLY BEING TOLD or whatever. It's a new beginning to face...whatever it is.

    Repression is so bad for you.

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    I don't agree. The worst me isn't something that I'm always trying to keep in check. It's something that comes out when I'm terribly pissed off, which is rare.
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    How ENTJ of you to always be in control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    How ENTJ of you to always be in control.
    LOL. I'm more relaxed than in control, really, ahah.
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    You just contradicted yourself. What a control move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    You just contradicted yourself. What a control move.
    I didn't contradict myself...
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    What you are is what you live as. Your dominant function is the function you automatically use and likely you do not realise you use it. When you read a book read in first person, the person has a general pattern he adheres to speaking about his experiences. You determine the person's dominant function based on those patterns. So how do you live life within your mind?

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    At the OP.

    You're saying that your worst self is your true self because it locks into the most basic instincts to act as such. But, this goes into the survive or thrive debate on whether it is natural for humans to only instinctively survive, or to live and thrive.

    As for myself, my worst self is exactly who I am under my worst conditions, and my best, when I am in my best. There is no disconnect of identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    I didn't contradict myself...
    yes you did. you're very "relaxed" yet always trying to keep what you see as your weaknesses consciously in check.

    If you were really relaxed you'd accept your weaknesses and not necessarily flaunt them (I don't think that's healthy either) but consciously working to keep the shadow self in check is very control-freaky and definitely indicates repression or rejection of part of your human self (and it probably affects how you view other humans and their weaknesses as well).

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