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    Default Possible rule for determining one's MBTI Tertiary doppelganger

    I'll start with my own type, and derive the pattern from there:

    Dominant - Tertiary
    INTP - ISTJ
    INFP - ISFJ
    INTJ - INFP
    INFJ - INTP
    ISTP - INTJ
    ISFP - INFJ
    ISTJ - ISFP
    ISFJ - ISTP

    ENTP - ENFJ
    ENFP - ENTJ
    ENTJ - ESTP
    ENFJ - ESFP
    ESTP - ESFJ
    ESFP - ESTJ
    ESTJ - ENTP
    ESFJ - ENFP

    When deriving the tertiary MBTI from a dominant -

    1. the attitude (I/E) remains the same, but is reinforced by the tertiary (tertiary users will probably score as high as 100% on the I/E scales).

    2. The Dominant letter remains the same (the T in Ti, the S in Si).

    3. The Auxiliary letter changes to its opposite (S to N, T to F).

    4. And J/P changes to its own opposite.
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    Cool, seems like it works. I always figured there was some kind of pattern, but I could tell it wasn't a simple or obvious one. Thanks for figuring this out and sharing!

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    I've seen this in someone!!!

    Really using the tertiary, scoring as EXTREMELY INTROVERTED, and appearing as their doppelganger, at least in more distant contact.

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    I've seen this too. That's god damn awesome that I'm not the only one; that means it probably has more truth to it then.

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    wait... what??
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    huh. I like that... only, without consuming the time it may take for me to change all the types, i'll try to explain my thought. I would think the doppleanger would be one with similar functions all around.... like, instead of INTP (Ti/Ne/Si/Fe) with ISTJ (si/te/fi/ne) it would more be like INTP with ISFJ- jumbled functions (Si/Fe/Ti/Ne.) Know what I mean? I've always thought of strange similarities in the people with jumbled functions- one's tertiary is another one's primary and visa versa (and other top functions are the same.) . Ugh, this is coming out so strange, I hope it makes sense.

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    Well they're called dom-tert loops. It's not like mal invented this, this is fucking Lenore Thomson, repackaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Well they're called dom-tert loops. It's not like mal invented this, this is fucking Lenore Thomson, repackaged.
    Hmm... maybe not... wasn't listening, and re read again. Was what I said more Lenore Thompson? I'm not read on her, so I wouldn't know anyway- his thing could be trying to attempt something different.
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    No he's talking about Lenore Thomson dom-tert loops. As you can see, at the top it says "Dominant-Tertiary."

    Like an ISTJ in an Si-Fi loop can seem ISFP (or INFP, which is more similar to what you've said about matchy matchy functions)...but typically yeah more like an ISFP since they're presenting a Sensing function even though it's not Se. They can look like an extremely introverted ISFP.

    Or an ISFP in an Fi-Ni loop can actually look similar to an INFP (though mal has INFJ listed, I would say it depends on how strong the Ni is vs. Fi).

    Yes, this is absolutely pre-packaged Lenore Thomson dom-tert theory, and I do agree with her theory, and I've witnessed it in people.

    It's only pre-packaged because he's making it more about letters than functions. I just wanted to make sure to point out that this is based in a more widely accepted theory since I neglected to do so before.

    I sometimes forget how haphazard the knowledge is on this forum about function theory. It's one of the main things I like about Personality Nation, though I'm much more comfortable with the warm social environment here and the level of activity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    I'll start with my own type, and derive the pattern from there:

    Dominant - Tertiary
    INTP - ISTJ
    INFP - ISFJ
    INTJ - INFP
    INFJ - INTP
    ISTP - INTJ
    ISFP - INFJ
    ISTJ - ISFP
    ISFJ - ISTP

    ENTP - ENFJ
    ENFP - ENTJ
    ENTJ - ESTP
    ENFJ - ESFP
    ESTP - ESFJ
    ESFP - ESTJ
    ESTJ - ENTP
    ESFJ - ENFP

    When deriving the tertiary MBTI from a dominant -

    1. the attitude (I/E) remains the same, but is reinforced by the tertiary (tertiary users will probably score as high as 100% on the I/E scales).

    2. The Dominant letter remains the same (the T in Ti, the S in Si).

    3. The Auxiliary letter changes to its opposite (S to N, T to F).

    4. And J/P changes to its own opposite.
    Wait. Wouldn't ENTP be Ne-Ti-Fe while ENFJ would be Fe-Ni-Se?

    So should #3 be the Tertiary of the second is the opposite of the Primary of the first?

    Cuz in the case of ENTP-ENFJ, #3 as described isn't true.

    I haven't checked the others, though.

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