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    Question Male versus Female Expression of Type...

    What, if any, differences do you note?




    *Prompted by my realization that of the the videos I watch and discussions I read, I relate more to males of my typology (mbti+ enneagram+ (sometimes) tritype) than I do to females. Showed the vids/posts to my friends, and they concur. Note, I'm not a tomboy, nor particularly masculine over feminine.*
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    In my admittedly non-expert estimation, type differences far outweigh gender differences. Moreover, much of what is often described as male-female differences/disconnects/conflicts are really type based, usually T/F. Since more women are F and more men T, this fuels the stereotypes. The fact that people like you often report being more comfortable with those of opposite gender but similar type supports the distinction. The big wildcard, or perhaps forcing function, here is cultural norms, especially in cultures where males and females do not interact much. It just takes longer to work through the extra barriers to see the similarities.
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    Pretty ambitious thread... and it would have to take culture locations into account since gender expectations can different from culture to culture.
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    This just begs for me to use the term "species"!! Males and females of each species vibe differently. Don't ask me how because I'm too lazy to break down all the types and their differences.

    E - To blanket generalise, males of any type are more self-centric and aggressive. This appears to be an issue of socialisation.

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    Age has far more of an overriding influence than the gender/ type issue. An obnoxious kid is an obnoxious kid, regardless of gender/ type. ENFP, INFP, ENTJ, INTJ, INTP, it doesn't matter.

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    In what way are you more like the males of your personality type than females?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    E - To blanket generalise, males of any type are more self-centric and aggressive. This appears to be an issue of socialisation.
    Is it all a result of socialization, or is there some physiological component as well, related to hormone levels, etc.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    Is it all a result of socialization, or is there some physiological component as well, related to hormone levels, etc.?
    I'm hesitant to incorporate hormone level differences since they're still researching the link between testosterone and aggression. Correlation or causation.

    But this article is interesting since it discusses a study that attempts to find correlation between lower empathy levels and higher testosterone levels:

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0209105556.htm

    Mind reading is one aspect of empathy, a skill that shows significant sex differences in favour of females. They tested 16 young women from the general population, since women on average have lower levels of testosterone than men. The decision to test just females was to maximize the possibility of seeing a reduction in their levels of empathy.

    The researchers not only found that administration of testosterone leads to a significant reduction in mind reading, but that this effect is powerfully predicted by the 2D:4D digit ratio, a marker of prenatal testosterone. Those people with the most masculinized 2D:4D ratios showed the most pronounced reduction in the ability to mind read.

    Jack van Honk said: "We are excited by this finding because it suggests testosterone levels prenatally prime later testosterone effects on the mind."

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    In what way are you more like the males of your personality type than females?
    It's rather difficult to explain, but I'll try... when I read the writings or watch videos of female ENFPs, I note qualities that make them ENFp, notice similar qualities in myself... in short, I recognize that we're the same type. But with most male ENFPs, I notice similar... not exactly habits or mannerisms, something else... that's what i don't know how to describe... and their strange experiences/anecdotes with Ne or type in general correspond with my own, where the female's experience/anecdotes only theoretically make sense. And it's not just me that thinks so... my friends and family concur. Male video: "He acts like you!" Female video: "Are you sure you're the same type?" "YEs, we have XYZ similarities." "If you say so..."

    My pet theory is/was that most female ENFPs connect more with Ne-Fi, where most males connect with Ne-Te and keep their Fi more private/internal, as I prefer to do. But I really don't have any support for that, can't think of a good argument, and didn't post it because I expected it to be flamed.

    Anyway, i don't think there's an explanation for my experience that won't be met with "Yeah, RIGHT..." but that got me thinking about male/female expression of type, and wondered if anyone else noticed differences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Age has far more of an overriding influence than the gender/ type issue. An obnoxious kid is an obnoxious kid, regardless of gender/ type. ENFP, INFP, ENTJ, INTJ, INTP, it doesn't matter.
    I think you may be right here, but what if you negate age as a factor? Say all your subject are 18-25, or 25-35, or 35-50, etc.? What's left?

    I'm not trivializing your comment, you definitely have a point. I relate more to my age mates of any type/gender than someone much older or younger of the same type/gender.
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