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    Default Strict/Harsh Upbringing = P?

    This is my theory anyway.

    People raised in lax environments where they were able to make their own decisions become J's.

    People raised strictly with impossible standards (with consequences if they failed to meet) become P's.

    The former upbringing instills confidence, decisiveness, and assertiveness. The latter deprives the individual of the opportunity to exercise their own faculties and fosters a resentment towards authority/rules.

    I notice this is true with most people I know from childhood. It's true for me - obviously my overzealous xNTJ stepfather (who, in middle/high school, *required* me to study each day and to get staight A's) didn't plan for me to end up ESFP. :p
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    Mine was a mix of both, sort of. Probably more the latter. I am a P, but have always been that way. I think it has more to do with decision making than actual Pness or Jness.
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    nah, both of my parents are P's and neither were strict.

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    Not true of me at all. My ENTP dad fits that P description and was always big on rebelling against authority and encouraging me to think for myself (at least in theory, in practice he never believed I was demonstrating intelligent and independent thought unless I agreed with him on everything). My ISFJ mother had difficulty being assertive enough to set appropriate limits with her kids. My upbringing definitely falls into the "lax" variety, although it wasn't exactly a healthy, confidence-instilling sort of lax.

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    My parents were very strict in a sense but not in a bad way, me and my brother are both P. They never had much trouble with either of us.

    My sister (the youngest) is J, they had their hands full with that one, I'd say they were the most strict with her, or at least had to show their strictness on a much regular basis.
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    Nope. I'm a P and my parents were pretty chill. I should say "are" pretty chill. I also have two J siblings. My parents were stricter with my ENFJ older brother, and he turned out pretty J.
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    My parents were somewhat strict but I had many freedoms... and I'm a P. They were far stricter with my older brother, he's a J. I don't think it's as black and white as you're making it out to be...
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    Eh, my ISTJ parents were moderately strict and I definitely think that rebelling in my later teenage years was mostly due to my upbringing. But, I think I've always been a "P" regardless.
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    Not true here either.
    My parents were not strict at all, and had very low standards. Lower than I wanted......
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    Another P here raised by a strong P.

    Maybe it is not so much about how strict your parents are (mine weren't, neither my ENTP mum nor my sort-of-mostly-absent INFJ dad) but about how much flexibility or adapting to your environment your environment demands of you. Nobody was ever strict with me but I was sort of eager to preemptively please, to do what i assumed was expeczed of me and adopt to my environment in order to not stick out too much if I could help it (need I say that didn't work out? At least I always felt like the odd one all my life). That demanded a good degree of flexibility and adaptability, positive P qualities, but also meant a lack of strength of will, self discipline and determination to hunt after personal goals - P weaknesses, I guess.

    EDIT: My little sister is a ISFP (somewhat subborn, but a very non-abrasive, sweet person) and my brother, the youngest, is a J ...he was the most pampered of the three, basically grew up without much of a father to talk about and had to find his own way and identity as the junior and the only male in a house of women...and turned out an ENTJ.
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