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    I understand that concept and it does make sense. I'm just trying to change the perspective on the theory because it's getting kind of boring for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    The relief function is supposed to be exactly what it means. What if it's providing relief from the dominant, instead of a situation? The dominant is creating the pressure, it is something you are focusing on and trying to solve and enact, but are unable to. Perhaps the goal is to understand the dominant through your other functions. Maybe the dominant is not something you are good at, but more like a puzzle you've personally singled out to solve and now you use the other functions in an attempt to decipher the purpose of the dominant and when you're auxiliary function does not work you use your relief. Maybe we are the problem and we're trying to solve ourselves.

    It's late, I apologize for the lofty language. Thoughts?
    I don't think the language is lofty. Makes sense. I always thought of the first three functions being mashed together. Not like, "First this, then that, then that." It's like a team of three people. One is supposed to be in charge but in the end it's just a mixture of the three. Sometimes one speaks louder than others, depending on the situation. Not like, "well, this first function, he's my pride and joy, I'm an INTP so Ti defines me right?" Nah, I don't think so. One could be more confusing than the other, one could make you happier than the other, one could be relief, (the "tertiary" possibly, like you say), one could emerge in this case, one could emerge in that case. I think that in any case, the primary seems like the most obvious face to the outside world. It's a face. So to me, your theory is entirely plausible. For me, Te is the only function that I notice and pay attention to, and it's the only function that I seems to be consistent on tests. (And sometimes depending on the dichotomy test, I'll test "T"- believed to be due to a focus on Te for me, and if the dichotomy test seems to ask Te related question, they are going to get Te related answers.) I'm clearly not an ExTJ, but there is something about the tertiary function that seems to say a lot about me as a person. It seems to be the most needed, somehow. So anyway, that ends up being my theory. That the aux and tertiary are just as prominent and important as the primary, just for less obvious reasons. (Those reasons, I'm not sure.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    I read that post thinking "relief function" was just another word for "tertiary function." But then Xyk was talking about his inferior function. So I don't know what you're referring to.
    I was making guesses. Fe seems to relieve me most of the time. I have no idea what Si is or does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    I don't think the language is lofty. Makes sense. I always thought of the first three functions being mashed together. Not like, "First this, then that, then that." It's like a team of three people. One is supposed to be in charge but in the end it's just a mixture of the three. Sometimes one speaks louder than others, depending on the situation. Not like, "well, this first function, he's my pride and joy, I'm an INTP so Ti defines me right?" Nah, I don't think so. One could be more confusing than the other, one could make you happier than the other, one could be relief, (the "tertiary" possibly, like you say), one could emerge in this case, one could emerge in that case. I think that in any case, the primary seems like the most obvious face to the outside world. It's a face. So to me, your theory is entirely plausible. For me, Te is the only function that I notice and pay attention to, and it's the only function that I seems to be consistent on tests. (And sometimes depending on the dichotomy test, I'll test "T"- believed to be due to a focus on Te for me, and if the dichotomy test seems to ask Te related question, they are going to get Te related answers.) I'm clearly not an ExTJ, but there is something about the tertiary function that seems to say a lot about me as a person. It seems to be the most needed, somehow. So anyway, that ends up being my theory. That the aux and tertiary are just as prominent and important as the primary, just for less obvious reasons. (Those reasons, I'm not sure.)
    I think it may seem more important to you simply because it's the only function you use to judge the outside world and you come into contact without outside world constantly because of your Pe. As such you are also pressured to make choices about the outside world because of the prevailing judging function Fe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyk View Post
    I was making guesses. Fe seems to relieve me most of the time. I have no idea what Si is or does.
    The combination of Ti and Si should create a sort of library. Ti structures the library and Si brings a sort of Dewey Decimal system so you can specifically find the piece of information you're look for as well as the records to search for the "book" you're trying to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    I understand that concept and it does make sense. I'm just trying to change the perspective on the theory because it's getting kind of boring for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    I understand that concept and it does make sense. I'm just trying to change the perspective on the theory because it's getting kind of boring for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyk View Post
    I was making guesses. Fe seems to relieve me most of the time. I have no idea what Si is or does.
    Often reflect on your actions? Ever looked into your post history to look back on past threads/posts? Ever reminisced over certain stages and times in your life?

    That's what Si does for INTP's in terms of relief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    Often reflect on your actions? Ever looked into your post history to look back on past threads/posts? Ever reminisced over certain stages and times in your life?

    That's what Si does for INTP's in terms of relief.
    Not often. I'm usually very future-oriented (though that could be related to my age and the events going on around me. I'm 18 and starting college in about two and a half weeks). My memory, especially short-term, is actually quite poor. No, usually when I get stressed, my thinking gets cloudy and I rely on my feelings more. As I reflect on myself, I find that I do reflect most of the time. Like lately I've been kicking myself for telling my best friend that I loved her like three years ago. I don't really see it as relief though. I think my tertiary function is the one I use the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyk View Post
    Not often. I'm usually very future-oriented (though that could be related to my age and the events going on around me. I'm 18 and starting college in about two and a half weeks). My memory, especially short-term, is actually quite poor. No, usually when I get stressed, my thinking gets cloudy and I rely on my feelings more. As I reflect on myself, I find that I do reflect most of the time. Like lately I've been kicking myself for telling my best friend that I loved her like three years ago. I don't really see it as relief though. I think my tertiary function is the one I use the least.
    Well, you're 18, your tertiary will really start to kick in in your 20's.
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