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    That's why it's different. The perspective was changed to the fact that the dominant was creating the pressure. It's not how well you use the dominant function, it's the curiosity of trying to understand the function. Like a puzzle. The inferior is just the last option you use to try and figure out the dominant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    That's why it's different. The perspective was changed to the fact that the dominant was creating the pressure. It's not how well you use the dominant function, it's the curiosity of trying to understand the function. Like a puzzle. The inferior is just the last option you use to try and figure out the dominant.

    In this idea.
    you need to think dominant, dominating your ego, inferior dominating your shadow(unconscious you), aux and tert something in between. its the collision of ego and shadow which creates the pressure, because ego wants to reject the shadow(thats why its in the shadow in the first place, its repressed by the ego, because it goes against it since its the opposite). the relieving function of tert is relieving the collision between ego and shadow, because it creates new perspective for you and from this perspective you are able to sort of link your shadow to your ego, without them conflicting. -> its not the dominant that creates the pressure, its the unconscious contents trying to force themselves to consciousness, but ego doesent like that
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    From an ENTJ perspective which appears to be the type you've adopted ReflecT, some of us wished we'd smothered Fi at birth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    From an ENTJ perspective which appears to be the type you've adopted ReflecT, some of us wished we'd smothered Fi at birth.
    The conscience is restraining, but it is so for a reason. I think when Te can find the purpose through the introverted perceiving function of choice it can accept it, or at least consider it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    The relief function is supposed to be exactly what it means. What if it's providing relief from the dominant, instead of a situation? The dominant is creating the pressure, it is something you are focusing on and trying to solve and enact, but are unable to. Perhaps the goal is to understand the dominant through your other functions. Maybe the dominant is not something you are good at, but more like a puzzle you've personally singled out to solve and now you use the other functions in an attempt to decipher the purpose of the dominant and when you're auxiliary function does not work you use your relief. Maybe we are the problem and we're trying to solve ourselves.

    It's late, I apologize for the lofty language. Thoughts?
    I read that post thinking "relief function" was just another word for "tertiary function." But then Xyk was talking about his inferior function. So I don't know what you're referring to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    I read that post thinking "relief function" was just another word for "tertiary function." But then Xyk was talking about his inferior function. So I don't know what you're referring to.
    The main point of my idea is to understand why some who have a dominant function are unable to use it properly. My thought is that perhaps the choice they picked peaked their curiosity and that's why it is their dominant, not so much that they're good at using it. So they picked this view of thinking and then using other functions are trying to figure out how to utilize the dominant function to it's full potential. If by chance they are unable to use their dominant effectively with their auxiliary they use their tertiary or inferior to do so.

    My feeling is that there is no predisposition towards a dominant and when you decide to use, or consider something dominant you don't understand it. As such you're trying to solve yourself. We talk about auxiliary and tertiary functions and strengthening them, but rarely do we try to better the dominant, because we assume that we already know how to use it. I'm saying we don't. So even the dominant function you've chosen to view the world by could cause stress.

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    Ok, thanks. My theory of personality is completely different from yours.
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    My theory of personality changes daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    My theory of personality changes daily.
    That's nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    The main point of my idea is to understand why some who have a dominant function are unable to use it properly. My thought is that perhaps the choice they picked peaked their curiosity and that's why it is their dominant, not so much that they're good at using it. So they picked this view of thinking and then using other functions are trying to figure out how to utilize the dominant function to it's full potential. If by chance they are unable to use their dominant effectively with their auxiliary they use their tertiary or inferior to do so.

    My feeling is that there is no predisposition towards a dominant and when you decide to use, or consider something dominant you don't understand it. As such you're trying to solve yourself. We talk about auxiliary and tertiary functions and strengthening them, but rarely do we try to better the dominant, because we assume that we already know how to use it. I'm saying we don't. So even the dominant function you've chosen to view the world by could cause stress.
    its not that people are unable to use their dom properly, its that it doesent fit to all situations. but even tho it might not fit to the situation, you might try to use it anyway, because its so strong in your ego and ego wants to be in control. in some cases you might be able to handle the situation with aux, but in other times you need to use your inferior. in these cases inferior shows itself in impulses coming from unconscious(if you have learned to control it with tert), and this causes the conflict between dom and inferior that i was talking about. ego wants to use dom, but it doesent fit the situation, shadow tries to brake the ego and put inferior into use(as it fits the situation better), but ego fights back, and there you need tert to relieve this conflict.
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