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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    You're assuming both that recognizing consequences requires "reading between the lines" AND that "reading between the lines" improves the ability to recognize consequences. Most consequences are not at all abstraction-based, so why would an S have more trouble recognizing that you get sunburned if you play in the sun, or something stupid like that?

    Also imo Ni is more of a "reading between the lines" function than Ne is. I would call Ne more of a "creating entirely new lines to read" function. As a result, Se children with tertiary Ni would theoretically have an edge over Ne children(i.e. with low Ni) when it comes to Ni activities....and that's not even getting into the fact that MBTI is defined by preference, not ability, so an S child could easily be better at some random N thing than an N child.
    That's how I view it too. Ne is like a constant game of make pretend. A gift and a handicap at the same time. I really can't fathom an ENFP child being a better predictor of effect than an ESxJ child.
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    ^^ me either. i don't even know what's coming out of my mouth until i've said it half the time.
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    It seems like the SJ child might be better at listening to parental instruction: "if you do this, then that will happen, so don't." So the SJ doesn't.

    It seems like the SP would learn through observation or experience, or maybe like Randominity's Se/Ni example.

    It seems like an Ni dom just might be more cautious.

    It seems like someone with Ne might be able to imagine the horrible possibilities.

    Therefore, all four perceiving functions could serve to give the person cause and effect in a way that would protect them.

    On the other hand, Ne or Ni might get delusional, Se might be careless because it wants to have fun...but it seems like SJs actually still win at caution...unless they were raised in an environment where their Si was bombarded with questionable experiences and bad morals, then they might very easily fall into what had happened around them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    It seems like the SJ child might be better at listening to parental instruction: "if you do this, then that will happen, so don't." So the SJ doesn't.

    It seems like the SP would learn through observation or experience, or maybe like Randominity's Se/Ni example.

    It seems like an Ni dom just might be more cautious.

    It seems like someone with Ne might be able to imagine the horrible possibilities.

    Therefore, all four perceiving functions could serve to give the person cause and effect in a way that would protect them.

    On the other hand, Ne or Ni might get delusional, Se might be careless because it wants to have fun...but it seems like SJs actually still win at caution...unless they were raised in an environment where their Si was bombarded with questionable experiences and bad morals, then they might very easily fall into what had happened around them.
    Maybe- or imagine the positive possibilities rather than the negative ones and go do the dumb thing anyways. No one can say, "yes, enxp teens are good at accurately predicting outcome." Those can be some of the craziest teens of all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    Maybe- or imagine the positive possibilities rather than the negative ones and go do the dumb thing anyways.
    Yeah that's why I followed up with Ne or Ni could get delusional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    ^^ me either. i don't even know what's coming out of my mouth until i've said it half the time.
    That is a good thing. I mean, having to think what I say and what words to use, while trying to say it, makes communicating slow.

    edit: ^ I've corrected that sentence like 3 times before posting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Yeah that's why I followed up with Ne or Ni could get delusional.
    Yea, true, and you're right on the other point, SJ's seem like they would win this one, being more focused on safety and caution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    Yea, true, and you're right on the other point, SJ's seem like they would win this one, being more focused on safety and caution.
    Yes, because Si draws new information carefully into its framework and connects it to existing points, so they aren't likely to rush into questionable experiences without undergoing this process.

    On the other hand, SJs who are raised in chaos or questionable surroundings to begin with tend to adapt to that and can easily repeat the things that have gone on around them.

    This is why all SJs aren't necessarily "conservative" ...it's because Si doesn't =/= conservative, it equals making linear connections carefully to pre-existing points of reference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    As I've already mentioned, I tend to speak a lot from things I've experienced and people I've known, and I also tend to write creatively with a lot of sensory detail and based on "what I know" loosely rather than being a totally imaginary realm. I also place more value on personal memories than some ENFPs seem to. In my blog, one male ENFP says he hardly remembers his childhood before a certain age, says he thinks other people are lying when they say they do remember being very young, and regrets that he may not remember parts of his own son's babyhood.

    Either I am conscious of my Si, or I am an Se type.
    You can't pull something from nothing, Marm. Your family memories could be how your Si manifests itself. Our functions are calibrated differently, resulting in a unique mix that you really can only associate with you. There's so many variables from person to person you can't base their experiences as your measuring stick.

    I think too much emphasis around here is trying to box people into the pre-packaged descriptions. The more fun aspect is trying to understand how the functions play out in them. It makes it a lot easier to approach this theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IZthe411 View Post
    You can't pull something from nothing, Marm. Your family memories could be how your Si manifests itself. Our functions are calibrated differently, resulting in a unique mix that you really can only associate with you. There's so many variables from person to person you can't base their experiences as your measuring stick.

    I think too much emphasis around here is trying to box people into the pre-packaged descriptions. The more fun aspect is trying to understand how the functions play out in them. It makes it a lot easier to approach this theory.
    My thinking is not linear, though. I do not have mature Si strenghths at all. If I have Si it is not adult. EricB has already pointed out that ESFP actually might make more sense for me because of the Si Opposing Personality Complex.

    Most people have family memories. I am also a story teller, never forget that.

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