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    Cool Apocalypticism

    Which type would you say is most prone to apocalypticism?

    I'd assume INTJ, followed by INTP & INFP. It seems vaguely characteristic of the Enneagram 5 & 1 worldviews.

    Anybody know why?

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    More of a 6 and 1 thing I'd think. 5s tend to know/accept human life and its existence is devoid of inherent importance if compared to the rest of reality to really worry too much about it ending.



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    5 apocalypticism is more about paranoia & emotional isolation, often with a bizarre techno-political angle... the definitive text would be Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon-- total conspiratorial paranoia running thru-out, literally awesome book... 5's might not always worry in the emotional sense about the world ending, but it'll make them neurotic & anxiety-ridden as it comes to control their thought process.

    Going by observation as well as bits of personal experience since I test as 5 about a third of the time.

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    Apocalypticism would probably be connected with Ni. Dominant for the INTJ, and Senex for the INP's. So the INTJ will be more naturally prone to that, and the INP's when in shadow mode (The WItch/Senex is perhaps the main negative complex for dealing with others; hence more prominent for INP's than for ENP's and ESP', for which Ni and its related complex will be more about the ego. And conspiratorialism is of course right up the Senex's alley).

    I imagine it would be seen in INFJ's as well, but perhaps less than the INTJ because of the F.
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    Yeah, INFJs seem like by far the most balanced of both INs & IFs, & they don't seem to get out of control unless something really awful happens to them.

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    So you think that all of the people who follow crazy apocolyptic ideas are one of those three types?

    Wankery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nebbykoo View Post
    So you think that all of the people who follow crazy apocolyptic ideas are one of those three types?

    Wankery.
    Well, I didn't say that, so what do you think?

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    By the way, does one have any interesting apocalypticism stories? I.e., stories involving apocalypticism.

    I have a few I might post later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunnyDigestion View Post
    Well, I didn't say that, so what do you think?
    I think that sort of thinking is a product of a vulnerable psychology and irrational fear, not type.

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    Yeah, your remark ends up raising a good point: sometimes the people you'd least expect it from are the most apocalyptic once you stick around & really listen to them. I've been around ESFPs & ESFJs etc who'll start talking & just spit the craziest, most ridiculous apocalyptic theories, though usually more oriented around religious escapism & herd-panic involving a lot of stuff they've heard other people say (think Glenn Beck)... using the cognitive-function model I guess you could explain it as the stressed-out wild flailing of inferior intuitive & thinking functions-- which is interesting in light of how people with superior abilities in those areas can be equally apocalyptic but in different form (lone paranoia etc).

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