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    I'm sure this has already been said, but if N-types really make up only 25% of the population, they should accommodate S-types more than S-types accommodate them.

    Then again, the word "accommodate" seems a little bit off here.

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    Ugh, I have so many mean and not-nice things to vent about this topic but I think instead I'll just say the following:

    I'm an S and I've felt a little odd and different all of my life. I suspect though that this is a combination of my having mild Asperger's Syndrome, being an introvert in an extroverted world, and just plain being a human being on this planet. There are a great many times I have been misunderstood by N's and I've had to accommodate them as well.

    I'm sorry, but everything the OP has described sounds like things I've had to do as well in my own lifetime so I don't see where he's coming from and I strong suspect this doesn't much to do with N/S and more to do with other variables or factors to be taken into consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mal12345 View Post
    Validated how?
    I wish I had more psychometrics training so that I could give a good answer. Maybe a form with obvious questions such as "As an INTP, do you actually relate to Fe being in the inferior position? [Y/N]" would be a start. Oh, as would a typology test with some actual test-retest reliability.

    Basically, all the stuff that the theory posits about actual people--especially the basics--should be tested using, oh, actual people. It's not an easy task, but it still needs to be done if the theory is to be used scientifically.


    As a side note, I think that Socionics would be a better theory for me to use to explain the point about the need for validation in typology, since that theory is pretty much "typology taken way, way too far with terribly little empirical backing" incarnate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    I'm sure this has already been said, but if N-types really make up only 25% of the population, they should accommodate S-types more than S-types accommodate them.

    Then again, the word "accommodate" seems a little bit off here.
    Yeah, it's definitely the most logical thing, so I don't blame "the-S-types", but still, it can be quite annoying sometimes imho when people don't even try to see something out of your perspective(not necessarily only in the sense of N vs S, but often). Example: I often have issues getting along with ESTPs. Their jokes are mainly physical/factual, while mines usually are very theoretical and often purely verbal. One ESTP I got to know throwed a burning lighter at me - I were completely baffled why someone should do such a thing and thought at first he would have serious antipathy against me, he on the other side simply meant it as fun. Other way around, when I made a joke about him, he responded angrily "Do you want to insult me?". I get along with him now because we both got that we're different in this topic - I like to stay in the theoretical realm and only switch to the physical reality if it's necessary, he likes to stay in the physical reality and only switches to theory if really necessary. But many ESTPs I met simply weren't aware of this difference and thought I wouldn't like them, so they don't like me now, purely because of a misunderstanding.

    Quote Originally Posted by tinker683 View Post
    Ugh, I have so many mean and not-nice things to vent about this topic but I think instead I'll just say the following:

    I'm an S and I've felt a little odd and different all of my life. I suspect though that this is a combination of my having mild Asperger's Syndrome, being an introvert in an extroverted world, and just plain being a human being on this planet. There are a great many times I have been misunderstood by N's and I've had to accommodate them as well.

    I'm sorry, but everything the OP has described sounds like things I've had to do as well in my own lifetime so I don't see where he's coming from and I strong suspect this doesn't much to do with N/S and more to do with other variables or factors to be taken into consideration.
    There are many areas in which you can be different from most people and which can make you feel odd, and the N/S distinctions is imho just one of them. Still, I'd say that most of the N-Doms have serious issues with being misunderstood, while only a rather small percentage of the S-Doms have serious issues with this, so I wouldn't say it doesn't play much of a role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinker683 View Post
    Ugh, I have so many mean and not-nice things to vent about this topic but I think instead I'll just say the following:

    I'm an S and I've felt a little odd and different all of my life. I suspect though that this is a combination of my having mild Asperger's Syndrome, being an introvert in an extroverted world, and just plain being a human being on this planet. There are a great many times I have been misunderstood by N's and I've had to accommodate them as well.

    I'm sorry, but everything the OP has described sounds like things I've had to do as well in my own lifetime so I don't see where he's coming from and I strong suspect this doesn't much to do with N/S and more to do with other variables or factors to be taken into consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    I'm sure this has already been said, but if N-types really make up only 25% of the population, they should accommodate S-types more than S-types accommodate them.

    Then again, the word "accommodate" seems a little bit off here.
    Of course, but why do we need facts like that, when we can just shit all over the place!
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    The accommodations seem to be roughly equal... maybe slightly favoring N...





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    Quote Originally Posted by stalemate View Post
    The accommodations seem to be roughly equal...




    Yes, that's right. N's create the accommodations so that S's can enjoy them.
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    lol...this thread is silly...whether the S or N is more accomodating depends on the individual N or S....maybe some *types* of people are less accomodating than others, and it has nothing to do with the N/S line...I think FPs in general are fairly accomodating...my ESFP mother is very accomodating...on the other hand, my ISTJ grandfather could be a beligerent, judgmental asshole who insisted that math was the right thing to be good at, not literature or art!

    Then again, an ISFJ could be fairly accomodating and sweet, depending on their Fe...so it's not even the J/P divide, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    I'm sure this has already been said, but if N-types really make up only 25% of the population, they should accommodate S-types more than S-types accommodate them.

    Then again, the word "accommodate" seems a little bit off here.
    WTF? So if one is a minority, one should automatically bow to others? Should African Americans and Mexican Americans be more accomodating of whites?

    Should gays be more accomodating of straights then straights are of them?

    I don't like your logic.

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