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“Pleasure to me is wonder—the unexplored, the unexpected, the thing that is hidden and the changeless thing that lurks behind superficial mutability. To trace the remote in the immediate; the eternal in the ephemeral; the past in the present; the infinite in the finite; these are to me the springs of delight and beauty.” ~ H.P. Lovecraft
"Charlotte sometimes dreams a wall around herself. But it's always with love - So much love it looks like everything else. Charlotte Sometimes - So far away, glass sealed and pretty." - The Cure
INFP | 4w5 sp/sx - 451| RLUEI - Primary Inquisitive
Your idea for using Excel really made judging the test scores easy! All I had to do was use the A to Z function which sorted the results by category (I had to input the categories into your Excel file first).My scores are:
I hope I recorded my answers right.. I backtraced my responses from my clipboard, because I didn't want to repeat the process of trying to answer the questions
I don't know much about ANSIR, but I'm more than willing to refine the spreadsheet, add the other two types, etc. ...
I have you as Working VISIONARY (scoring 7 points)
Sage came to 5 points, and you scored 4 points on Kinsmen. Philosopher was next at 3 points. (Sage is kind of like a type 5 intp, Kinsmen is like a type 6 or 9 infp, Philosopher probably a type 1 or 3 J-type.)
The type you scored lowest on was the Diligent (-5) - it correlates closely to the istj ennea-type.
ANSIR to MBTI correlation - I would have expected an Extremist score to correlate closely to E/ISTP. For an ENTP to score Visionary, on the other hand, correlates much better even with just one category out of three responding. Extremists are realists to an extreme - S types. Visionaries are Intuitives.
Furthermore, if you scored Working Visionary then chances are that that's your Boss type. But it requires taking the Emoting test to know for sure.
The scoring is all on the second sheet of the file But I screwed that part up of the sheet anyway Here's a fixed version of the ANSIR Working test.
Checks out with my scores based upon the new sheet, too:I have you as Working VISIONARY (scoring 7 points)
Sage came to 5 points, and you scored 4 points on Kinsmen. Philosopher was next at 3 points. (Sage is kind of like a type 5 intp, Kinsmen is like a type 6 or 9 infp, Philosopher probably a type 1 or 3 J-type.)
The type you scored lowest on was the Diligent (-5) - it correlates closely to the istj ennea-type.
.. yeah, I think that makes more sense.Category Scores
Empath 0
Sage 5
Diligent -5
Idealist -1
Evokateur 3
Scintillator 0
Sage 5
Sentinel 2
Visionary 7
Extremist 0
Realist 1
Kinsmen 4
Healer 0
Philosopher 3
Cool, thanks for the feedback!Furthermore, if you scored Working Visionary then chances are that that's your Boss type. But it requires taking the Emoting test to know for sure.
I might try to run your scanned pages through an OCR to get the text of the questions, too. If ANSIR is somewhat valuable or interesting to people, we could also just create some sort of web quiz for it..
I hesitate over possible copyright issues. I didn't make the test, I only saved it from vanishing into the depths of cyberspace just before they closed the original site. I understand that a new site and a new test will come along eventually, but it's taking years.
[edit - What sucks is that the book does not contain the test but directs people to the online site that no longer exists.]
By the way, you have Sage listed twice on the left side of your Score and Answer Key.
Ahhh, with the new Excel, my figures changed:
Empath 2
Sage 2
Diligent 4
Idealist -2
Evokateur 0
Scintillator 3
Sage 2
Sentinel -1
Visionary 6
Extremist -5
Realist -1
Kinsmen 3
Healer 5
Philosopher 1
Highest: Visionary, Healer, Diligent
Lowest: Extremist, Idealist, Sentinel/Realist
Yeah that sounds about right.
I took this test in the 90s and was even a bit active on their boards (proto TypologyC?) I think my answers changed as I retested myself, but then, I was a wee youngin' then soooo~ :P
I remember I got 'Visionary' for all 3 1x, then I got 'Sage' for 'workstyle' (which didn't sound right, that sounds INTP all the way), and I got Evokateur and/or Idealist.
Too bad the website is not active for the test anymore, this seemed to be a thoroughly worked and novel system and a good parallel with MBT and Ennegram.
The ANSIR does have the advantage of being original with the author and not a knock-off of some other typology system. And yet it is possible to draw many correlations. Unfortunately, it is never possible to make it one-to-one. For example, Evokateur has to be split between Ennea-types 4 and 5. There is just no other way to make a fit when you have 14 types in one system and 9 types in another.
Also, there is the possibility of creating a fit with Riso's levels of integration. Here's an example of how this is done.
The ANSIR system mainly describes "confident" types of individuals, but it does cover "unconfidentOnes." The "working Visionary" type description of Seich's is confident, but she says the unconfident working Visionary is best described by the confident working Idealist. Incredibly, the higher level of functioning of one type acts just like the lower level of another. (This is somewhat like the Enneagram in which the below-average functioning 6w5 can be confused with a type 8.)
If at some point after taking the ANSIR test the first time you lost confidence, then maybe this describes the change in preference. Or it could be the result of more objective self-awareness. Working intensely at personal growth can also influence such changes. What people don't understand sometimes is that your center of self-awareness does not always keep up with inner change, it may take years for the realization (or revelation) to sink in that "I'm not the person I once was," whether the change involves a move toward integration or disintegration.
I checked the ANSIR thread over at INTJf and of those claiming to be INTJs they had the following thinking styles:
Sage
Eccentrik
Philosopher
Evokateur
Realist
Dilligent
Extremist
Frankly, that doesn't surprise me.
In this forum, I noticed several people with the same ANSIR thinking style, but they were not the same MBTI type. Furthermore, the Enneagram was not created to correlate with MBTI types. Why people keep trying to correlate everything under the sun with MBTI, makes no sense. Just because someone scores X in one context doesn't mean it has to match up with something similar to X in another context. That smacks of people wanting what is tidy, rather than what is true.
When all else fails, claim it's rigged.