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    You shouldn't think of things in terms of Fe and Fi. Just learn to pick your battles wisely and stand up for yourself when needed. In any given situation, think about how important it is for you to stand for yourself vs. the good of the group and are you willing to live with the consequences. Then again, I grew up with a strong e2 Fi user so she acted like the more stereotyplcal Fe user compared to me much of the time so this Fe vs. Fi thing is all a blur to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    i didnt think you were disagreeing with me

    i dunno whats best thing for you to do. why do you want to act like Fe anyways? whats wrong with acting by your Fi, but still doing whats good for other people?
    I wasn't sure so that's why I said it, lol.

    Um, well, like I said in the OP, I have a certain kinda pride in Fi, being Fi-dominant, but sometimes there's a nagging doubt in my mind that the only reason I did something was to satisfy my own need. I'd like to move away from that feeling of being self-centered. And I think I see that other-focused mentality alot in people I'd say were using Fe.

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    Fe and Fi can be expressed by anyone. Fe is not my "world view" (nor is any mental process) but I certainly express it to build rapport with others, especially in business. It's checking to see how my decisions impact people, groups, teams, entire organizations. Again - crucial in business when you're running a company. It is not a case of using only one or the other. It's a case of using what works best in a given context. That is how I operate, and certainly how the most productive people I know operate. If I didn't operate that way, I'd be a one-sided caricature rather than a real human being.

    I express Fi when I am prioritizing what is really important to me. My personal values. Neither Fe nor Fi have anything to do with the emotions or "feelings" in the usual sense of the word. Jung made that perfectly clear — Fe and Fi are evaluative in nature.

    An example of me expressing Fi is when I refused to buy stock in a drug company since I know how harmful some of their antibiotics are to people. That's a personal value of mine. I will not invest money in anything that would harm people. I don't care how much money I could make from the stock. I have many other stocks I can buy that would yield the same return. I don't have to choose that one.

    We all have our own personal values and are capable of evaluating what is most important to us. (Fi)
    And we're all capable of considering the implications of our decisions on others. (Fe)

    This is not rocket science.

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    forget about Fe and just try to be less self-centered if its something thats bothering you. you should keep in mind not to sacrifice yourself too much tho, would be kinda INFP thing to do if you would try to overdo this and burn yourself out.
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    Yeah, I mean you can philosophically care about other people and have Fi. Fi is actually associated with empathy and trying to determine underlying universal human values (THIS IS WRONG. IT JUST IS.) I am a liberal - meaning that I believe in social freedom (which I suppose matches Fi) but I also believe all people should be fed and educated and treated humanely. I don't think everyone should be given the same pay no matter what type of work they do, but I do believe that human life is sacred and I don't want to see people suffer. I truly believe a society works better for everyone involved if people are fed and educated. But that doesn't mean I have Fe. Just because I don't want strangers to suffer in their basic needs for food and health and learning doesn't mean that I, in my daily life, make my decisions based on what other people would prefer. Because beyond my belief that all people deserve to live and have an equal opportunity to be treated with dignity, respect, and blah blah blah, I also don't think I should have to repress who I am to make other people happy, as long as I'm not hurting them.

    If you'll notice, a lot of people with Fe "behave themselves" for lack of a better term. They do really well with maintaining the harmony or nudging others to do so. They engage people tactfully. People with Fi can do that too, but we're never going to do it all the time, because Fi is more concerned with sticking to inherent core values, being truthful, and being "myself." It's not that people with Fe are not truthful, it's just that they apparently will keep truth to themselves if it means doing otherwise would cause a disruption in harmony. They will go out of their way to present that truth in a more palatable or diplomatic manner, a lot of the time, if they are healthy. Fe skills rock. I admire people with Fe. On the other hand, trying to behave full-time like I had Fe would make me feel insane, suffocated, and eventually tired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    An example of me expressing Fi is when I refused to buy stock in a drug company since I know how harmful some of their antibiotics are to people.
    looks like. bold = Fe and earlier part = Ti decision based on Fe. could be bold = Fi and other Te too tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Fe and Fi can be expressed by anyone. Fe is not my "world view" (nor is any mental process) but I certainly express it to build rapport with others, especially in business. It's checking to see how my decisions impact people, groups, teams, entire organizations. Again - crucial in business when you're running a company. It is not a case of using only one or the other. It's a case of using what works best in a given context. That is how I operate, and certainly how the most productive people I know operate. If I didn't operate that way, I'd be a one-sided caricature rather than a real human being.
    And your motives sound like Te, not Fe. It is a "productive" way to operate... I disagree with your assertion that the functions aren't world views. Yes, yes they are. You don't "use" Se to drive your car, or "use" Te to do the laundry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    bold = Fe and earlier part = Ti decision based on Fe
    Nope. The only person who knows my true motives, is me. My decision was my way of staying true to who I am. As a matter of fact, I'm certanly not INFP but my decision was the same one an INFP made - not investing in certain companies because of their products, and their effect on the public.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    And your motives sound like Te, not Fe. It is a "productive" way to operate... I disagree with your assertion that the functions aren't world views. Yes, yes they are. You don't "use" Se to drive your car, or "use" Te to do the laundry.
    As usual, you missed the point of my post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    bold = Fe and earlier part = Ti decision based on Fe
    Yeah, I've noticed quite a few people believe Jag is ENFJ rather than ENTJ.

    I could see a glimmer of that when he was making fun of someone for not speaking our language properly, yet in the same breath lecturing me for telling someone to "fuck off." It seemed like Fe nonsense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Yeah, I've noticed quite a few people believe Jag is ENFJ rather than ENTJ.

    I could see a glimmer of that when he was making fun of someone for not speaking our language properly, yet in the same breath lecturing me for telling someone to "fuck off." It seemed like Fe nonsense to me.
    no idea what his type is. i edited my post, because i first thought what functions i would use on the situation. just illustrating that its two decisions in the situation and that its not always just one function working on stuff like that. what he said is Fi decision for him, i would make exact same decision with Fe Ti. people dont understand this too often, they just automatically think its just Fi working on the situation.
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