- not caring what other people think is not selfish. it's called being secure and doing what you need to do no matter who is with you or against you
It could be selfish though, that's the point. It's not necessarily positive.
It very much opens the possibility of ignoring the needs & desires of others to do what you want, and that IS selfish.
- getting things done does not have be at the expense of others, most of the time it is to their benefit. I don't mean this as a personal attack, but good luck attaining any form of success if you think this way. there is nothing noble nor heroic about poverty.
If you don't care what people think, then you're not going to value their thoughts enough to even know what benefits them. A person who acts in the interests of others has to know their interests, and that means caring about what they think, feel & desire.
And yes, you did mean that as a personal slight, because for some unknown reason you took my last post personally when it had nothing to do with you.
- rebellious = lack of self control and respect? you are aware that we would still be ruled by kings and treated like cattle by the ruling class if there weren't rebels. by this measure, Martin Luther King, Ghandi, Joan of Arc, all of the founding fathers, and virtually every famous person in history had no self control or respect.
You're twisting my words....there was not an equation sign. Those were all separate qualities that were used to show how your description is not necessarily of an admirable, noble person. Those traits can turn ugly fast.
I'm using rebellious here to mean someone who causes trouble for it's own sake; rebelling just to rebel, not in the interest of others, as we had already established that badasses don't care about what other's think & just do what they want. Rebelling for a cause that benefits others does NOT fall under that kind of rebellion, and it certainly doesn't make you a badass. It makes you, well, a "goodass".
PS: please do not put words in my mouth. your interpretations of my post were both accusatory and baseless. accusatory is fine if you have evidence, baseless if fine if you're giving praise, but the 2 combined pose seriously communication problems
I wasn't putting words in your mouth or accusing anyone of anything. Calm down....the winking face was there for a reason; this is a light-hearted thread. I was just showing that these supposedly positive qualities you listed may not be so positive. You can put whatever spin you want on these behaviors, which is why being a badass does not mean being a hero. It might mean that for some people at certain times, but in and of itself it is not necessarily a good thing.
That's why "the least badass type" has no reason for shame, and might even view it as a compliment.
"Charlotte sometimes dreams a wall around herself. But it's always with love - So much love it looks like everything else. Charlotte Sometimes - So far away, glass sealed and pretty." - The Cure
i think the deal with INTP badassery (or what seems like lack or it) is that well, we are calm, chill and if someone comes to our face, we remain calm and not lose our temper easily, but not run away and ready to attack in defense. at least personally if someone starts to fuck with me, ill just do it back(with triple the force) to them until they attack or flee(been in the situation few times with some drunktards and they always fled). im not a violent person, but if someone starts to fuck with me for no reason, hes a total asshole and i treat them like that(look down on them and laugh at their face on their attempts to act big), but because im not interested on getting sued by some asshole i want to make them attack me, so that i can "self defend" with bit too much force.
This is sort of true, I think. Being badass is not very important to me. I don't know. My image of traditional badass is sort of don't give a fuck attitude people who don't shy away from conflict. I have no interest in being involved in conflict or a fight. Sometimes it can even feel forced or fake or like some weird testosterone-driven or insecurity-driven thing, like an image people intentionally put out. I guess I'm not even totally sure what it is, but I don't know if you can be the traditional badass without also being a little bit of a dick.
If people start getting upset or angry, changing the topic is fine with me. Nothing will get accomplished the other way anyways. In my adult life, I've never been in a physical fight. The closest I came was two or three years ago at a party, some jerk started giving my friend shit because he found out he was guy. My first response was to try and calm him down, but he shoved my friend and me and another guy became prepared to fight him, but some other people we were with and my gay friend suggested we leave. Apparently that guy got into a fight right after we left anyways.
So if INTPs are the least badass type, that's okay by me.
(though my initial thought was probably INFPs, I guess)