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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    ISTJs to me seem to be the most pre equiped for academia
    which means that ENFP's are...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craft View Post
    which means that ENFP's are...?
    better at learning with a personal tutor. ENFPs tend to struggle with school because of the organization, routine and general lack of communication (after all, a ratio of 30 students to 1 teacher hardly promotes 2 way communication)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patches View Post
    I'd put my stamp of approval on this statement.

    My gift is memorization. I can read a text book and absorb it like a sponge. And fortunately for me... Our educational system rewards that ability. High school was a breeze and undergrad wasn't too bad either.

    The problem I am running into in Graduate school is... Professors spend more time asking you to extrapolate your own ideas from information that is presented... Or asking you, "Ok, so your textbook told you that when X happens, Y does this. Now can you tell me WHY you think that happens?" That's where I hit a speedbump.

    One of my chemistry professors keeps stressing that we MUST understand how/why mechanisms act the way they do, because we won't be able to memorize 450 different reactions. My response.... "Wanna bet?" *Patches proceeds to make 450 flash cards*.

    I don't know if other ISTJ's process information the same way I do, but I wouldn't really refer to it as 'smart'. More like a computer. Insert data, and I can repeat it back to you whenever you request it. But I can't make up new data out of thin air.
    Blunt question: so, if you understand that your skillset is not fit for scientific research, why are you getting a PhD? What's the purpose? Does it make any sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Blunt question: so, if you understand that your skillset is not fit for scientific research, why are you getting a PhD? What's the purpose? Does it make any sense?
    well, the most logical reason would be money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craft View Post
    which means that ENFP's are...?
    Awesome PR people. ENFP isn't opposite to ISTJ though; they have the same functions.
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    The one least prone to dumb-ass threads like this one and the parallel EQ one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Blunt question: so, if you understand that your skillset is not fit for scientific research, why are you getting a PhD? What's the purpose? Does it make any sense?
    Valid question... Multiple part answer.

    Partly... Parental pressure. Since birth, for both my brother and I, they've been shoving the idea of higher education/graduate school/etc down our throats. They set the bar high for us, and for me it wasn't really a question of "will I go to graduate school" since it was always assumed as such. Quite frankly, my stepfather was upset that I didn't go to medical school. But I am NOT built for medical school. Secondly, because my field genuinely interests me and with effort I am doing well. Most people don't make it through college/grad school without putting forth an effort. The fact that I'm having to push myself to succeed doesn't mean it's the wrong career choice.

    As for eventual career... There are aspects of research that I /am/ well suited for. And most research happens in teams, not as individuals. I think most research teams would find that having an ISTJ on a team is a valuable asset.
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    What about ISTP people?

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    school is not hard... especially highschool and early on college. The people with the best grades are those who work the hardest typically. That doesn't mean they are smart though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craft View Post
    which means that ENFP's are...?
    Say what you want, we're pretty good at school

    Statistically, I'll say the OP actually has it right in terms of IQ test scores. This question always seems to offend people, I've been flamed a few times for it before. Personally, I'm fine with there being a smartest type, as long as people don't think that type is the be-all-end-all to intelligence (it's not even close).
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