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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
    Hi there!

    For years I have been wanting to find some good Sensate criticisms of iNtuitives. But I never really have. Here we have, for the first time, to my knowledge, a good critique from an obviously intelligent Sensate. Please take a look:

    http://www.celebritytypes.com/blog/2...singintuition/
    Overall the critique is weak and the author lacks credibility:
    • The author states, "by an ISTJ who is a PhD from a major university", but doesn't state his actual name, university, or role.
    • Comments at the bottom of the page are "closed".
    • The author explicitly mentions TypologyCentral.com and poses the question, "what senser would bother waste his time there?"
    • Grammatical error in the last paragraph.
    • Posted on a 'no name' website.
    • Is it "senser", "sensor" or does it matter?
    • I found the domain name 'whois' search also fascinating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd Girl View Post
    Overall the critique is weak and the author lacks credibility:
    • The author states, "by an ISTJ who is a PhD from a major university", but doesn't state his actual name, university, or role.
    • Comments at the bottom of the page are "closed".
    • The author explicitly mentions TypologyCentral.com and "what senser would bother waste his time there?"
    • Grammatical error in the last paragraph.
    • Posted on a 'no name' website.
    • Is it "senser", "sensor" or does it matter?
    • I found the domain name whois search also fascinating.
    Conclusion: It was an ISTJ who posts here. Now lets all try to figure out who it was.

    (This was a joke post until I reflected back and realized that the person pretty much sounds like he's reflecting on the culture of the forum.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mkenya View Post
    A big weakness of N..

    1. iNtuitives see pattern that may or may not be there..then give significance to those patterns...and then wonder why they got burned when things didn't go as expected.
    yeah this is really true. i almost never am wrong about identifying a pattern in and of itself, but sometimes i fail when i go to attribute it to something. like i'll notice my SO having a pattern of drawing away and i'll jump to the conclusion that it was probably because i made them angry. except that's totally wrong, they were drawing away for a totally different reason. N can be a very paranoia-inducing function.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    I actually think it's pretty fucking presumptuous for him to presume that Ns of many types (not just NTJs) don't implement our abstract ideas into our daily lives.

    I agree on many points, but not that one.
    yeahhh. i mean, we might be N, but we're not complete idiots. if N was that detrimental to existence we'd obviously stop using it.

    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    Conclusion: It was an ISTJ who posts here. Now lets all try to figure out who it was.

    (This was a joke post until I reflected back and realized that the person pretty much sounds like he's reflecting on the culture of the forum.)
    lol. you know, and i actually thought the original article itself was pretty tongue in cheek, but i felt that sort of lingering resentment too. you may well be right.

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    The blog was entertaining and kind of funny. It's fine if sensors have this perception of intuitives!

    I have no idea why people get so offended by the divide. On either side.

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    I think NTJs are pretty focus on results, so he is off there. Also, his analysis seems biased towards Ne dom or auxiliary types. He seems to lack a through understanding.

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    I don't know... The more I think about it... Since when do intuitives have an elitist attitude over sensors outside of this forum? Even if they did, it's a definite opinion statement coming from an "MD". I'm thinkin' most ISTJ MD's would cringe at the thought of writing something like that without at least putting a couple of numbers in there.



    I don't know any of your new age ISTJ's on here so I have no guesses.

    YOU! OP! Get over here and tell us why you don't have a type and only have two friends on here! Is sensate even a word?

    You're being suspicious over there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    The blog was entertaining and kind of funny. It's fine if sensors have this perception of intuitives!
    Hahaha, yes it was!

    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    I think NTJs are pretty focus on results, so he is off there. Also, his analysis seems biased towards Ne dom or auxiliary types. He seems to lack a through understanding.
    Yes sir.

    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    I don't know... The more I think about it... Since when do intuitives have an elitist attitude over sensors outside of this forum? Even if they did, it's a definite opinion statement coming from an "MD". I'm thinkin' most ISTJ MD's would cringe at the thought of writing something like that without at least putting a couple of numbers in there.



    I don't know any of your new age ISTJ's on here so I have no guesses.

    YOU! OP! Get over here and tell us why you don't have a type and only have two friends on here! Is sensate even a word?

    You're being suspicious over there.
    I like you!

    From what I can see at this point, the blog post is propaganda. As for me, I love sensors A LOT!! I'm so grateful for the sensors that I have in my life; don't know what I'd do without them. There's tons of mutual admiration between the types here. I have not noticed the issues that the ISTJ mentioned (as being the predominant attitudes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
    Marmie Dearest youre just being negative because the author called you on your love of TOP GUN as a homo-erotic drama.
    That has to be stolen from the movie Sleep With Me. Quentin Tarantino makes a (hilarious, IMO) cameo where he explains his theory on how Top Gun is really a man's inner struggle with his homosexuality. Good movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    I think NTJs are pretty focus on results, so he is off there. Also, his analysis seems biased towards Ne dom or auxiliary types. He seems to lack a through understanding.
    Agreed.

    I find that it is generally meaningless to talk about type in terms of dichotomies; the traits listed for each side are usually not even true for all of the types they encompass and are, as a result, terribly misleading. This is especially true for the S/N and T/F dichotomies because, for example, types as different as ISTJ and ESFP get bunched in the "S" group (making it useless because these two have extremely little in common, not even in terms of sensing because one is Se while the other is Si), and types as different as INFP and ESFJ get bunched together in the "F" group (...these types hardly have anything in common at all, either functionally or in terms of their general presentation.) There is literally no meaning in saying that one is an N or S, T or F. It's nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bologna View Post
    more people should actually try this, yeah
    this. but i think its best to work mostly on your Si if you are Ne user and Se if you are an Ni user because those functions kinda support/compliment each other. if you are an Se user, you cant really do genuine Ne, because with genuine Ne the Se works in the unconscious and so does seeing the Ne connections etc, and the results come to conscious after the processing is done. now with Se users, the details go straight to conscious, so you need to work with the connections(and other Ne stuff) with conscious thinking, so its not really Ne that finds the connections in this case. but Ni on the other hand comes naturally to Se user, but is weak usually and needs some work on.
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