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    He wrote only ten posts.

    They come when you sleep

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    wildcat playtime! best time of the day!

    PMed you my answer; do not wish to spoil it for others. am not sure. let me know there?
    You gave me hyacinths first a year ago;
    They called me the hyacinth girl.
    Yet when we came back, late, from the Hyacinth garden,
    Your arms full, and your hair wet, I could not
    Speak, and my eyes failed, I was neither
    Living nor dead, and I knew nothing,
    Looking into the heart of light, the silence.

    --T.S Eliot, The Wasteland

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    He seemed like a good poster... but I guess I (and other people) were all too caught up in politics/anecdotes and such to notice him or his style of posts, so he left.

    What I most didn't want on this forum, happened. And I barely even noticed anything except a dip in my energy levels (and daily posting average) that I disregarded as a mood swing. The groundwork is set now, and there's little to be done.

    That must be why I'm lately so anxious every time someone tries to point out a social boundary here... even when it's justified. Because I didn't want to believe things had really come to this, but now I can't deny it. A few veterans like Uberfuhrer and BlueWing still being here was part of the facade that made me think it wasn't so.

    For good or ill (possibly both), we really are coming to demand almost the same level of social accountability that they do in the real world... this is no longer primarily a psychology forum, but a social one, all the way across. The psychology is only tolerated as a topic over which to relate/connect, and not much more. Complex/serious discussions just aren't appreciated here, and while not yet condemned out right, they're frowned on. I guess all I can do is try to appreciate it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    He seemed like a good poster... but I guess I (and other people) were all too caught up in politics/anecdotes and such to notice him or his style of posts, so he left.

    What I most didn't want on this forum, happened. And I barely even noticed anything except a dip in my energy levels (and daily posting average) that I disregarded as a mood swing. The groundwork is set now, and there's little to be done.

    That must be why I'm lately so anxious every time someone tries to point out a social boundary here... even when it's justified. Because I didn't want to believe things had really come to this, but now I can't deny it. A few veterans like Uberfuhrer and BlueWing still being here was part of the facade that made me think it wasn't so.

    For good or ill (possibly both), we really are coming to demand almost the same level of social accountability that they do in the real world... this is no longer primarily a psychology forum, but a social one, all the way across. The psychology is only tolerated as a topic over which to relate/connect, and not much more. Complex/serious discussions just aren't appreciated here, and while not yet condemned out right, they're frowned on. I guess all I can do is try to appreciate it...
    An understatement.
    He had a rare insight into the MBTI theory.

    Does patience breed tolerance?
    Does impatience breed intolerance?
    Or vice versa?

    A continuum has got two ends.
    One subject.
    An order is only about the subject of the order.

    My post was not an accusation.
    It was not the fault of anybody.

    Recluse was the best poster. We did not pay attention.
    When I discovered her, she had already left.

    It is impossible to keep count on people who come and go.

    Psychology is a social thing.
    It is not the one or the other.

    It is the one with the other.

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    what is this about?
    Vanitas vanitatum omnia vanitas

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    He wrote only ten posts.
    They come when you sleep
    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post

    A continuum has got two ends.

    One subject.
    An order is only about the subject of the order.
    Will admit i got it wrong at the start.

    Find Members List, user name, Narticus. As Wildcat said, he wrote only 10 posts. Therein the first point: a person. If you see his profile: INTJ.

    "They come when you sleep."

    When does one sleep? At night.

    (that was where my first guess went wrong. I had thought Wildcat meant the member, Night.)

    But this is under Temperament, Type, and Psychology. So it isn't so easy.

    Read through Narticus' posts, especially: http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...ion-model.html

    The real answer (wildcat, do confirm it?)--

    Narticus was an INTJ. Some say Freud was, as well. Primary proponent of the id, ego, and superego. Of the conscious, and unconscious.

    What comes at night, but dreams, where the unconscious, the shadow is revealed.

    Therein the link that one has to make to solve this wildcat riddle.

    Personality is, as per wildcat's 2nd post, a continuum. Because people are never either/or, but a continuum between two extremes.

    eg, for an INTP, personality is not just INTP. We shade all the way (the continuum) from INTP to ESFJ, depending on situations of light or shadow (the conscious self vs the unconscious/stressed self).

    That is the shadow of who we are.

    Narticus had ordered the shadow functions, in his post. He had elucidated and extrapolated the continuum of the shadow functions from the seen functions.

    Hence, "an order is only about the subject of the order".

    (will admit i don't quite get narticus' mathematical explanation of his order though. )
    You gave me hyacinths first a year ago;
    They called me the hyacinth girl.
    Yet when we came back, late, from the Hyacinth garden,
    Your arms full, and your hair wet, I could not
    Speak, and my eyes failed, I was neither
    Living nor dead, and I knew nothing,
    Looking into the heart of light, the silence.

    --T.S Eliot, The Wasteland

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    Quote Originally Posted by elfinchilde View Post
    Will admit i got it wrong at the start.

    Find Members List, user name, Narticus. As Wildcat said, he wrote only 10 posts. Therein the first point: a person. If you see his profile: INTJ.

    "They come when you sleep."

    When does one sleep? At night.

    (that was where my first guess went wrong. I had thought Wildcat meant the member, Night.)

    But this is under Temperament, Type, and Psychology. So it isn't so easy.

    Read through Narticus' posts, especially: http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...ion-model.html

    The real answer (wildcat, do confirm it?)--

    Narticus was an INTJ. Some say Freud was, as well. Primary proponent of the id, ego, and superego. Of the conscious, and unconscious.

    What comes at night, but dreams, where the unconscious, the shadow is revealed.

    Therein the link that one has to make to solve this wildcat riddle.

    Personality is, as per wildcat's 2nd post, a continuum. Because people are never either/or, but a continuum between two extremes.

    eg, for an INTP, personality is not just INTP. We shade all the way (the continuum) from INTP to ESFJ, depending on situations of light or shadow (the conscious self vs the unconscious/stressed self).

    That is the shadow of who we are.

    Narticus had ordered the shadow functions, in his post. He had elucidated and extrapolated the continuum of the shadow functions from the seen functions.

    Hence, "an order is only about the subject of the order".

    (will admit i don't quite get narticus' mathematical explanation of his order though. )
    Confirmed

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    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    He seemed like a good poster... but I guess I (and other people) were all too caught up in politics/anecdotes and such to notice him or his style of posts, so he left.

    What I most didn't want on this forum, happened. And I barely even noticed anything except a dip in my energy levels (and daily posting average) that I disregarded as a mood swing. The groundwork is set now, and there's little to be done.

    That must be why I'm lately so anxious every time someone tries to point out a social boundary here... even when it's justified. Because I didn't want to believe things had really come to this, but now I can't deny it. A few veterans like Uberfuhrer and BlueWing still being here was part of the facade that made me think it wasn't so.

    For good or ill (possibly both), we really are coming to demand almost the same level of social accountability that they do in the real world... this is no longer primarily a psychology forum, but a social one, all the way across. The psychology is only tolerated as a topic over which to relate/connect, and not much more. Complex/serious discussions just aren't appreciated here, and while not yet condemned out right, they're frowned on. I guess all I can do is try to appreciate it...

    Any group will come down the bottomline measure of the inner works of those posting there. The only way to change this, if one thinks it should be changed, is to take action and post the kinds and level of topics you think should be posted and to nuture those kinds of discussions you think should be nutured along. The board is each individual coming together as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    He wrote only ten posts.

    They come when you sleep
    I'd somehow taken this to mean that sometimes things that you enjoy last for too short of a time, so you must enjoy what small good experience you had...

    I guess interpretation is based on life experience
    “Oh, we're always alright. You remember that. We happen to other people.” -Terry Pratchett

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    Quote Originally Posted by elfinchilde View Post
    eg, for an INTP, personality is not just INTP. We shade all the way (the continuum) from INTP to ESFJ, depending on situations of light or shadow (the conscious self vs the unconscious/stressed self).

    That is the shadow of who we are.

    Narticus had ordered the shadow functions, in his post. He had elucidated and extrapolated the continuum of the shadow functions from the seen functions.

    Hence, "an order is only about the subject of the order".

    (will admit i don't quite get narticus' mathematical explanation of his order though. )
    That's what I was thinking of when I peered at Narticus' post on Shadow Functions. Though, a bit off point, I frequently dislike, as you may have noticed, when people stereoType. We all move along the spectrum of our Cognitive Processes as we develop as people, with our continued experiences and conditioning (and breaking out of them). Some people are better balanced, more evolved within their Types but we still have the capability of de-evolving when we become stressed, hoarding our Dominant CPs and when deeper stressed accessing our Shadow CPs negatively. If we are better evolved though, we can quicker recogise our Shadow. Self-awareness will return us into the Light so that we can better consciously use the full gamut of our CPs, depending on how far we've advanced/balanced them. Ah, the sounds we could make when using all our notes! Eee, I feel so romantic!

    Eflie, you thought Night, hmm? keke Well, you could say, he comes to cast Light (conciousness) when others aren't viewing where their Shadow begins (the unconscious root/s) but where it extends as they chase after it (furthering into darkness as the shadow spreads). Or something like that! He's an interesting person, regardless!

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