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    I just read about Bolen's "The God in Every Man" and "... Woman" and it all seems very interesting. Based on Jung's archetypes as well, but making a distinction between men's types and women's types and limiting it to 16 in total. Just like Jung, she doesn't imply a distinction between J and P.
    It does not seem to be about real type but about behaviour.

    Does anyone have experience with it? Organisations that use it? Background?

    PS: I would be surprised if nothing had been said about this before, somewhere on MBTIc, but I have great difficulties doing searches on this forum (clumsy me).
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    If she doesn't imply a distinction between J and P, what's the difference, say, between an ENFP and an ENFJ, or an ISTJ and an ISTP? (And if there isn't one, then how can there be sixteen types? Surely there'd only be eight - EST, IST, ENT, INT, ESF, ISF, ENF and INF.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    If she doesn't imply a distinction between J and P, what's the difference, say, between an ENFP and an ENFJ, or an ISTJ and an ISTP? (And if there isn't one, then how can there be sixteen types? Surely there'd only be eight - EST, IST, ENT, INT, ESF, ISF, ENF and INF.)
    The OP seems to insinuate that there are eight types... for each gender ... adding up to 16.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    If she doesn't imply a distinction between J and P, what's the difference, say, between an ENFP and an ENFJ, or an ISTJ and an ISTP? (And if there isn't one, then how can there be sixteen types? Surely there'd only be eight - EST, IST, ENT, INT, ESF, ISF, ENF and INF.)
    Well, if it were MBTI minus P/J, it would be cheap
    8 times 2 (women and men).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mippus View Post
    Well, if it were MBTI minus P/J, it would be cheap
    8 times 2 (women and men).
    I just skimmed the TOCs (online on Amazon) -- I only saw, I think, seven of each. Do you have a list of what the eight would be for each? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I just skimmed the TOCs (online on Amazon) -- I only saw, I think, seven of each. Do you have a list of what the eight would be for each? Thanks.
    Male:

    Zeus (ExT)
    Poseidon (xxF)
    Hades (ISx)
    Apollo (ENT)
    Hermes (ENT)
    Ares (ESF)
    Hephaistos (ISF)
    Dionysos (xSx)


    Female:

    Artemis (ENF)
    Athena (EST)
    Hestia (INF)
    Hera (ESF)
    Demeter (ExF)
    Persephone (ISx)
    Aphrodite (ESx)

    So 15 types really. Hm, need to check with Jung.:rolli:
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    Why are there two ENTs and no INT?

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    because it is less black and white than MBTI
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    The Greeks apparently hated introverts.
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    I have no real experience with it, but I don't think it is much more than an archetype system that isn't quite as comprehensive as MBTI. I don't think it was cleanly designed to correlate with MBTI at all. I don't think it's based on the same part of Jung's work as MBTI is, but it may be based on some of his other archetypes.

    I personally think leaving out J/P is a mistake, because I've found it to be the largest gap in how people process information, and the one that leads to the most communication problems for me.

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