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    Default OCEAN Personality matrix combining MBTI/Kiersey Temperament

    Hi,

    I was wondering if anyone else has attempted to create a personality matrix like that used in MBTI and Kiersey Temperament sorter but based on the Big 5 traits / OCEAN dimensions complete with type descriptions. My idea is that if we assume that a given person is at one extreme of each of the five dimensions, we can create a matrix of 32 personality types. Let me know if you think my descriptions are appropriate or not (I have used some Kiersey descriptions):

    Conventional
    Conscientious
    Introvert
    Disagreeable
    Stable

    Inspector


    Conventional
    Conscientious
    Introvert
    Agreeable
    Stable

    Nurse

    Open
    Conscientious
    Introvert
    Agreeable
    Stable

    Counsellor


    Open
    Conscientious
    Introvert
    Disagreeable
    Stable

    Mastermind


    Conventional
    Conscientious
    Introvert
    Disagreeable
    Neurotic

    Soldier


    Conventional
    Conscientious
    Introvert
    Agreeable
    Neurotic

    Server


    Open
    Conscientious
    Introvert
    Agreeable
    Neurotic

    Mystic


    Open
    Conscientious
    Introvert
    Disagreeable
    Neurotic

    Strategist


    Conventional
    Easy-going
    Introvert
    Disagreeable
    Stable

    Crafter


    Conventional
    Easy-going
    Introvert
    Agreeable
    Stable

    Composer

    Open
    Easy-going
    Introvert
    Agreeable
    Stable

    Healer


    Open
    Easy-going
    Introvert
    Disagreeable
    Stable

    Architect


    Conventional
    Easy-going
    Introvert
    Disagreeable
    Neurotic

    Mechanic


    Conventional
    Easy-going
    Introvert
    Agreeable
    Neurotic

    Artist


    Open
    Easy-going
    Introvert
    Agreeable
    Neurotic

    Activist


    Open
    Easy-going
    Introvert
    Disagreeable
    Neurotic

    Philosopher


    Conventional
    Easy-going
    Extravert
    Disagreeable
    Stable

    Promoter


    Conventional
    Easy-going
    Extravert
    Agreeable
    Stable

    Socialite


    Open
    Easy-going
    Extravert
    Agreeable
    Stable

    Entrepreneur


    Open
    Easy-going
    Extravert
    Disagreeable
    Stable

    Inventor


    Conventional
    Easy-going
    Extravert
    Disagreeable
    Neurotic

    Delinquent


    Conventional
    Easy-going
    Extravert
    Agreeable
    Neurotic

    Performer


    Open
    Easy-going
    Extravert
    Agreeable
    Neurotic

    Campaigner


    Open
    Easy-going
    Extravert
    Disagreeable
    Neurotic

    Comedian


    Conventional
    Conscientious
    Extravert
    Disagreeable
    Stable

    Administrator


    Conventional
    Conscientious
    Extravert
    Agreeable
    Stable

    Sales Manager


    Open
    Conscientious
    Extravert
    Agreeable
    Stable

    Teacher


    Open
    Conscientious
    Extravert
    Disagreeable
    Stable

    Field Marshall


    Conventional
    Conscientious
    Extravert
    Disagreeable
    Neurotic

    Clerk


    Conventional
    Conscientious
    Extravert
    Agreeable
    Neurotic

    Home maker


    Open
    Conscientious
    Extravert
    Agreeable
    Neurotic

    Politician


    Open
    Conscientious
    Extravert
    Disagreeable
    Neurotic

    Dictator
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    The way I've attempted to integrate them is by a factor to factor correlation. But it's not the factors that the correlators who have studied it think.

    extraversion=E/I, of course.
    openness=S/N
    agreeableness=directing/informing (usually mapped to T/F, but this is only so for S's)*
    conscientiousness=cooperative/pragmatic (usually mapped to J/P, but this is only so for S's)*
    Neuroticism is the one missing from MBTI. An advanced version, called the Type Differentiation Indicator, attempts to add a new factor, called Comfort/Discomfort, to match Neuroticism.
    *(For N's both of these factors are swapped)

    What I had determined, looking at Hans Eysenck's original definition of Neuroticism, is that it actually fits a combination of the first two; E/I and Directing/informing. These are actually the original temperament factors, of expressiveness and responsiveness or "people/task".
    The healthiest or lowest Neuroticism temperaments were identified by Eysenck as the Sanguine and Phlegmatic. Both were "people-focused", or what Berens would call "informing". Choleric and Melancholic were more Neurotic, and are directive, or task-focused. So it looked like Neuroticism simply paralleled people/task or Agreeableness.

    But in five temperament theory, the Phlegmatic ends up, not as introverted and people-focused, but rather moderate in both scales. The true people-oriented introvert was an unrecognized fifth temperament, which the discoverers of this theory called Supine.
    But Supine, from it's descriptions, is very neurotic. Because of the very fact that they are so people focused, and want interaction, yet lack the mechanism to express (i.e. are very shy). So they end up very frustrated, and are often taken advantage of, or moved to do things they don't want to do.
    The Sanguine and Phlegmatic remain the "low Neuroticism" temperaments, but what they share in common, is no longer people-focus, because the Phlegmatic is really inbetween. The Sanguine is high on both scales, and the Phlegmatic is moderate in both scales. The other three temperaments all share at least one low factor, and lowness in either expressiveness or responsiveness indicates some form of movement away from people. This appears to be what is connected with Neuroticism.
    the Sanguine wants a lot of interaction, and can easily express to people to get what they want. the Phlegmatic can take people or leave them, so do not have much of a need, and thus, less stress. The others either do not want people, or are shy and avoidant of them, or both. This stems from some sort of overstimulatability in interaction (where the Sanguine is understimulated, and the Phlegmatic is balanced). Hence, those other three end up not as emotionally "healthy" as the other two.

    So this seems to be a way to integrate the fifth factor into the four temperament theories, and thus into type (which consists of the temperaments in the forms of both the Interaction Styles, and Keirsey's groups).
    APS Profile: Inclusion: e/w=1/6 (Supine) |Control: e/w=7/3 (Choleric) |Affection: e/w=1/9 (Supine)
    Ti 54.3 | Ne 47.3 | Si 37.8 | Fe 17.7 | Te 22.5 | Ni 13.4 | Se 18.9 | Fi 27.9

    Temperament (APS) from scratch -- MBTI Type from scratch
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    I'm strong on reserved and open. The other three are more in the middle. I lean towards agreeable and conscientious. Pretty evenly split on calm/neuortic but lately I've felt more neurotic. Could just be PMS or stress. So that makes me a mystic or counselor, neither one accurately describes me. I identify more with strategist.

    According to Eric's hypothesis, with my combination of Big Five traits, I'd be an MBTI INFP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    The way I've attempted to integrate them is by a factor to factor correlation. But it's not the factors that the correlators who have studied it think.

    extraversion=E/I, of course.
    openness=S/N
    agreeableness=directing/informing (usually mapped to T/F, but this is only so for S's)*
    conscientiousness=cooperative/pragmatic (usually mapped to J/P, but this is only so for S's)*
    Neuroticism is the one missing from MBTI. An advanced version, called the Type Differentiation Indicator, attempts to add a new factor, called Comfort/Discomfort, to match Neuroticism.
    *(For N's both of these factors are swapped)
    This is an interesting way of looking at it, I like it. I usually see Conscientiousness linked to J/P and Agreeableness linked to T/F in all cases, but Eric's approach directly connects my INTP-T score with my RLUAI score.
    We will meet again in Etruria.

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