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    Quote Originally Posted by Roheline View Post
    Does this sound like an INTJ to you?
    Yes.
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    It's because Te is obnoxious. I don't mind it though.

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    Immature NTJs have issues with running roughshod over other people's feelings and using amoral "ends justify the means" thinking. There also seems to be a stereotype of INTJs as tending to be heartless Ayn Rand fanatic Libertarians that think poor people are all lazy and make fun of us "Bleeding Heart" NF Liberals (with much abuse being tossed at the Archetypal "Bleeding Heart" INFJ Jimmy Carter)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ladypinkington View Post
    ENTJ's have this way of not even acknowledging your existence until you show interest in their plan or goals or are seen as a useful pawn to get to their goal. it feels like you are nothing unless you can help them achieve their goals.

    I am close to slapping one ENTJ girl I know 6 ways to Sunday as she is so freaking smug and disrepectful and oh my gosh- are all ENTJ's full of themselves to no end?
    "disrespectful" isn't a word that most ENTJs would use to describe their own contradictory behavior, because arguments and bluntness are the ways we get to know people. it's more respectful to take the time to have a discussion with someone than it is to be politely silent-- it means she's taking you more seriously.

    in addition, ENTJs reserve their affection for a group of close friends and relatives, who they are extremely loyal to. with what they believe is assured mutual support, there is no need to waste time building more. we use aquaintances as a change of pace, who may then develop into true friends if they prove themselves worthy and patient.

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    Why do INTJ/ENTJ's get such a bad rap?
    Because they are clearly evil and you have all fallen for their plan to seduce you into thinking they are actually decent people.
    Is not to be held accuntable for peeling errors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaula View Post
    Because they are clearly evil and you have all fallen for their plan to seduce you into thinking they are actually decent people.
    I think you are speaking the truth there. Thank you for that.
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    I know a guy who is either INTJ or ISTJ. Biggest prick I know. That god (if he exists) that he is graduating this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mortabunt View Post
    I know a guy who is either INTJ or ISTJ. Biggest prick I know. That god (if he exists) that he is graduating this year.
    That gun may just come in handy then
    “I made you take time to look at what I saw and when you took time to really notice my flower, you hung all your associations with flowers on my flower and you write about my flower as if I think and see what you think and see—and I don't.”
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    Gordon Ramsey is SUPER ENTJ. I love it! My little brother is ENTJ so I have a major soft spot for them.

    I also have an INTJ brother -- again, I concur with you: they are terribly caring.

    I didn't know they were getting a bad rap, but by golly if they are, who can I punch?! ;-) hehe...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jen View Post
    I've noticed how people always seem to assume that INTJ/ENTJ's are heartless cold bastards and I'm here to say that's just not true! Now mind you I am talking about well adjusted NTJ's not mentally unstable ones.

    My husband is an INTJ and he's the nicest most decent, caring person I know. For example, when I used to smoke he would say within earshot of our children that if I didn't stop, I would die. Well each time I went outside to smoke I had to endure this speech of his. And when he wasn't home the kids were sure to tell me that they didn't want me to die as well. Well I'm not going to lie and say it didn't break my heart each time I heard this, so I quit and I am so thankful to my family for caring and loving me enough to nag me into quitting. An SFJ acquaintance of mine at the time was mortified when I told her this and didn't see the logic in what my Husband was doing. She and I no longer speak and the ironic thing was that her husband was dying of lung cancer from smoking and she and I quit at the same time. His unfortunate situation mixed with my husband and children is why I no longer smoke.

    Fictionally Dr. Cox on Scrubs isn't really a bad guy at all. He just has a different approach compared to an NF as in he doesn't beat around the bush. If I were ill I would want him as my Dr. hands down. Gordon Ramsey I believe is an ENTJ who I also don't think is as "mean" as some would say he is. If I were in jeopardy of losing my shirt I would totally want him to help save my restaurant. I think he really wants to help and if he makes money doing it, then so what? House has his issues, but I don't think he's all that bad either.

    If I were stranded on a deserted island or if our city were swarming with flesh eating zombies, I would so want an NTJ around otherwise that would be the end of me.

    I don't know many NTJ women and wonder if they are less emotional than their male counterparts? Who would be most likely to greet you with a hug and/or kiss?

    Any thoughts on the subject?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maliafee View Post
    Gordon Ramsey is SUPER ENTJ. I love it! My little brother is ENTJ so I have a major soft spot for them.

    I also have an INTJ brother -- again, I concur with you: they are terribly caring.

    I didn't know they were getting a bad rap, but by golly if they are, who can I punch?! ;-) hehe...
    Maybe they are just healthy then .. Its nice that you are able to see that side of them.
    “I made you take time to look at what I saw and when you took time to really notice my flower, you hung all your associations with flowers on my flower and you write about my flower as if I think and see what you think and see—and I don't.”
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