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    More human than human MetalWounds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    I am fluent in English yet am having some major problems translating this.

    To be honest, the questions you raise make absolutely no sense.

    I'm confused by your absence of logical progression.
    He is implying that religion is devoid of substance, rather it is a method to push your beliefs on someone else and then referring them to pious dogma, in which they will be viewed as justified. This would make the ultimate controlling factor on other human beings, not based on your own power, but the perceived implication of power bestowed unto a deity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    I am fluent in English yet am having some major problems translating this..:
    Let me dumb it down for you.

    Extroverted Intuition is much concerned with making an impact on large groups of people. Religions have a powerful impact on society by and large. Want to influence people? Why dont you become a preacher. Come on, we all know you better than that; you're not really so naive that you actually think that in order to call yourself religious you actually have to believe in the things the Bible teaches.

    Being religious is also associated with having character. Want people to think highly of you? Tell them that you're religious.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    To be honest, the questions you raise make absolutely no sense.:
    Study Extroverted Intuition more.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    I'm confused by your absence of logical progression.
    'It is absent' and 'I don't see it' are not synonymous expressions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalWounds View Post
    He is implying that religion is devoid of substance, rather it is a method to push your beliefs on someone else and then referring them to pious dogma, in which they will be viewed as justified. This would make the ultimate controlling factor on other human beings, not based on your own power, but the perceived implication of power bestowed unto a deity.
    Yeah, and he's asking ENPs this...hence my LOL.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    Religion is highly instrumental at making a name for yourself and promoting whatever desire your whim shall command. Having rejected this, how do you plan on accomplishing that eventually? Don't you think its rather unwise to reject religion just because you dont agree with their spiritual teaching and ethics?
    If she's got no particular aim, faking faith serves no purpose, but, how do you know she's not manipulating the hell out of you right now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    Let me tone it down for you.

    Extroverted Intuition is much concerned with making an impact on large groups of people. Religions have a powerful impact on society by and large. Want to influence people? Why dont you become a preacher. Come on, we all know you better than that; you're not really so naive that you actually think that in order to call yourself religious you actually have to believe in the things the Bible teaches.

    Being religious is also associated with having character. Want people to think highly of you? Tell them that you're religious.



    Study Extroverted Intuition more.

    'It is absent' and 'I don't see it' are not synonymous expressions.
    In my world, religious people are associated as being automatons, and or dogmatic idiots.

    You seem devoid of moral substance, and lacking in intellectual dexterity.

    I am not a megalomaniac, I could give two fecal shits about how the world at large perceives me, and the people whom I do care about, do happen to view me highly, why? Because I am an honest and sincere person.

    I have no need to tell people lies just so they'll like, or admire me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Yeah, and he's asking ENPs this...hence my LOL.
    My dear sir, are you telling me that you, an ENFP, do not much care to be admired by everyone? That you do not much care to easily get what you want from people at the snap of a finger? That you are not excited by the idea of having your audience believe everything you say without knowing what you're actually saying? That you are not interested in having others think of you to be as magnanimous as Yahweh himself, yet let yourself behave like the Pagan Gods? (Cough Bill Clinton, he was of your breed).

    That said, doesnt religion seem enticing to you still?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    My dear sir, are you telling me that you, an ENFP, do not much care to be admired by everyone? That you do not much care to easily get what you want from people at the snap of a finger? That you are not excited by the idea of having your audience believe everything you say without knowing what you're actually saying? That you are not interested in having others think of you to be as magnanimous as Yahweh himself, yet let yourself behave like the Pagan Gods? (Cough Bill Clinton, he was of your breed).

    That said, doesnt religion seem enticing to you still?
    You are soooooooooooooooooooo ignorant!!!!!!!!!!!

    You obviously know not a goddamn thing about what it means to be a true ENFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    You are soooooooooooooooooooo ignorant!!!!!!!!!!!

    You obviously know not a goddamn thing about what it means to be a true ENFP.

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    Continue please.

    P.S

    I have a feeling this whole thread flew over your head again.
    Last edited by proteanmix; 02-10-2008 at 02:16 PM. Reason: removed insult
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    My dear sir, are you telling me that you, an ENFP, do not much care to be admired by everyone? That you do not much care to easily get what you want from people at the snap of a finger? That you are not excited by the idea of having your audience believe everything you say without knowing what you're actually saying? That you are not interested in having others think of you to be as magnanimous as Yahweh himself, yet let yourself behave like the Pagan Gods? (Cough Bill Clinton, he was of your breed).

    That said, doesnt religion seem enticing to you still?
    To disagree with this, it would seem to be to refute that your type is actually ENFP.
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    ^ that's all you got???

    Two lousy emoticons and a "pass-the-mic" forfeiture!!!!!!
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