enneagram gives a much more holistic view.
(Especially if you factor in tritype)
06/13 10:51:03 five sounds: you!!!
06/13 10:51:08 shortnsweet: no you!!
06/13 10:51:12 shortnsweet: go do your things and my things too!
06/13 10:51:23 five sounds: oh hell naw
06/13 10:51:55 shortnsweet: !!!!
06/13 10:51:57 shortnsweet: (cries)
06/13 10:52:19 RiftsWRX: You two are like furbies stuck in a shoe box
Probably the Enneagram by a slight margin, depending though on whose type descriptions I go by. I first came across the Enneagram in Helen Palmer’s book, and tentatively typed myself as a Four. Then I read Riso’s descriptions and identified more with his sexual 5w4 subtype. According to Riso, the 5w4 subtype is often missing in the exceedingly cerebral Five descriptions by other authors, which does seem to be the case, and thus 5w4s often mistype as Fours (though I wonder if there’s any such thing as “mistyping”, given the subjective nature of typology). / INFP, on the other hand, isn’t totally off the mark in describing me. But in terms of dominant functions, I relate more to my socionics type, IEI: Ni-Fe as defined by socionics, which btw should be viewed as a separate typology rather than a variation of the mbti or a neo Jungian system.
I am an INTP 5w4 and identify strongly with my MBTI type; however, I do like that the Enneagram takes it a step further with the wings because I think it encompasses the nuances of personality a bit more.
I don't think of them as being separate...in a way I think of them both together making up a more complete portrait of my basic personality.
"Everyone who believes in telekinesis, raise my hand."
I like enneagram because there's a sort of symmetry about it, not only in the gram itself and all the 9 points, but each individual point as well. That symmetry provides a point and counterpoint, providing a paradox. We are 2 in 1, not 1 in 2. I suppose the 8 function model has that symmetry as well, but to a person who's trying to define their inner-world, rational,irrational,feeling,thinking,intuition, and sensing are more ambiguously placed in a particular order because those drivers are more readily seen in each individual, whereas enneagram drivers tend to be more transparent.
I identify with things that have nothing to do with either. Everyone laughs at me, but probably I identify more with the levels of consciousness, and moral development. Enneagram kind of reminds me of the emotional MBTI.
It's cool how the enneagram all fits together, but I think it's overly reductionistic, unless you add in all the 'sx/sp/so' stuff which makes it too cluttered. The 'stress & disintegration' concept is badass, but I just think there's more going on under the surface in the MBTI model. It deconstructs how patterns of behavior actually form instead of saying 'you're a this-&-that so you do this-&-this'.
But partly I dislike the Enneagram because it categorizes me as a 5 sometimes & I think that's a shitty category.