First off, GO VICKY JO !!
By the way: Vicky Jo is a life coach professionally certified in various domains, including the MBTI :rolli:
I'm ready to bet I have the messiest flat in the whole building (a tower building with more than 10 floors and at least 4 flats on each floor).Another myth is about Js being tidy and Ps being messy. Whoa again!
I always test as INFP - the only time I didn't was when the test was NOT based on the MBTI dichotomies.Then there's the added problem of people who try to figure out whether they are J or P based on these same criteria! Well, as the Mafiosos say, "fuhgettabouttit!"
That is EXACTLY me!! Give me an assignment due in two months, and I'll diligently think about it and prepare for it for the next 3 days. And then... I'll forget about it until 3 days before it is due.What's interesting is that my husband and I score equally on any questions of early-starting and pressure-prompted -- because we do both! Since the two of us possess the Chart-the-Course interaction style, we tend to put just enough energy into an event early on in the process to figure out what must be done to arrive at the goal point. But then we forget about the whole matter until we're "pressure-prompted" to actually set the wheels in motion for the event. Invariably, we cut the margin too finely, and quality of life can be rather questionable until the event has ended.
I'm one of the less motivated people I've ever known.There are other stereotypes around J/P -- you probably know what they are. I've heard that "Js are determined and energetic while Ps are unmotivated wimps."
As for my opinion about the J/P dichotomy: it shouldn't exist, because it is totally unsupported by both theory and observation.
The 4-letter codes are just that: codes. What they are NOT is acronyms. For example, INFP codes for DomFi+AuxNe:
1- NF as the core
2- P to determine which function is Extraverted, in this case the Perceiving one
3- I to determine which function is the Dominant, in this case the Introverted one
Thus DomNi+AuxNe. See any J/P in this? No. Because it's not there.
Before anyone tells me that by rejecting the J/P dichotomy, I'm throwing the baby with the bathwater, let me say: all I'm rejecting is the TEST. I'm fine with the codes and with the 16 MBTI types. What I am not fine with is the TEST used to type people. Testing for things like Introversion vs Extraversion, or "Feeling" vs "Thinking", that's already iffy enough, since by definition everyone has BOTH sides of each set. But testing for P/J, that's downright ridiculous, since P/J is only a MARKER: it only serves to designate which sort the Extraverted function will be (a Perceiving one or a Judging one). I *guess* you could argue that it tests for Se/Ne vs Fe/Te, but what exactly are the common points between Se and Ne, and Fe and Te?? I'm definitely not Extraverted in the same way an INTJ is Extraverted, for example. So to be accurate, the P/J test would need to test for all 4 of the Extraverted functions, which it doesn't. Instead it tests for traits that are supposedly associated with each pair of functions. Let's see:
How does this relate in any way to Fe ? Te, yes, I can see that. But Fe???
I might see a bit more of a relationship between those adjectives and both Se and Ne, but it's still pulling at straws, as far as I'm concerned. And more problematic: several of those traits can apply to Fe too...
The P/J dichotomy simply isn't supported, neither by theory, nor by practical observation. Thus, it shouldn't exist. That's how real scientists work: when something isn't supported by theory and contradicts the observations, then it is discarded. It is high time the P/J dichotomy be discarded.
IMO, of course.