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    Ok, now, so all you Fe people know: I see you guys playing this chess game in your head, and it freaks me out.

    For reals...
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    the interesting part is when "people" get taken off the board
    Im out, its been fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
    What happens when you win?
    You get what you want and sweet revenge... I rarely do that though. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by fidelia View Post
    No violaine, I do that too. I can't help it either. In fact one of the big things I find fascinating in getting to know new people is figuring out how they fit into the bigger picture. Even on this forum, I like knowing what other people are within one person's orbit, what they care about, what their hot buttons are, where their strengths lie, who they don't hitch with. I think in part it gives me a bigger sense of security because I better know what to expect from them. I also just find it fascinating. Some people like studying science or some kind of business system etc. I like studying human systems and seeing if I can find any particular "laws" at work within a particular little culture of people or within my own interactions with someone. I also like investigating how far afield those laws apply - do they work across many different sub-cultures or not? Is it a human condition or just a person or group specific one?

    I don't know if that's Fe or not, but I kind of suspect it is from talking to other people.
    I wonder if this is something of a combination of Ni + Fe.

    Some of what you are talking about definitely sounds like the meta-perspective.

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    @ violaine - I always thought other people did that too, but after talking to a whole pile of people about it, I found that there are a lot of people that are not particularly interested. They may be interested as it pertains to them, or if it involved intriguing gossip about someone they know, but not just for the sake of it. I am compelled when I go out to dinner to figure out the nature of the relationship of most of the diners around me - first date? Family member? Longterm companions? New acquaintances? I like to watch them interact and predict what will happen next. I found out that some of my friends think that is either intrusive, weird, or just uninteresting. Can't shut it off though.

    Somehow I feel uncomfortable until I've kind of figured out the basics of what someone is all about. It's not really even about how I'm going to interact with them, it's more like I just need to know where they fit and what their purpose is. One of my friends used to laugh about me filing people away in various folders and drawers of my mental filing cabinet. I responded that I was always perfectly ready to refile if new information came up, but otherwise they'd be littering my mental living room messily or getting lost under the newspapers somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    I wonder if this is something of a combination of Ni + Fe.
    It is.

    Si+Fe has a lot more to do with just maintaining harmony according to what one considers the the relevant social mores (via one's Si).

    Ni adds in that "I want to be able to understand this for the furthering of my vision" edge.
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    No matter how airy or earthy or watery you become... to many of us you will always be...a super nova."

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    Honestly, I have had these people alarm things go off and have remarked upon something matter-of-factly as though everyone can see it and been stunned that no one else can see what is bothering me about someone. In the past I might have said something, like, watch out for so and so and then gotten so much shite about it. Then! Everyone else catches up later. Without exaggeration, in one case, two years later all of my friends caught up and formed the same opinion. I keep those hunches to myself now but they come out of nowhere.

    @ Fid, yes, that is what I do automatically as well, it doesn't even register that I'm taking stock. And as you say below, it's not with malevolent intent. Wow, this thread really did get interesting.

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    Regarding the chess game, I don't see it as a hostile sort of thing (how can I eliminate you), so much as something like, "If I move here, what counter move is the other person likely to make? Which one of their players will they use? What directions can the different chess pieces around me go and how does that affect me and the other chess pieces in the game? What all chess pieces does the other person have left to work with and are they pawns or something more powerful? Where is their king right now? Am I in danger?"

    Do we really freak you out, Z?

    Interesting about the Ni/Fe thing. That may account for why it feels much different to me than a lot of people's description of Fe based on interactions with their SFJ peoples.

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    I just like to watch and understand as its interesting. Dont try to predict anything, just work with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by violaine View Post
    Honestly, I have had these people alarm things go off and have remarked upon something matter-of-factly as though everyone can see it and been stunned that no one else can see what is bothering me about someone. In the past I might have said something, like, watch out for so and so and then gotten so much shite about it. Then! Everyone else catches up later. Without exaggeration, in one case, two years later all of my friends caught up and formed the same opinion. I keep those hunches to myself now but they come out of nowhere.

    @ Fid, yes, that is what I do automatically as well, it doesn't even register that I'm taking stock anymore. Wow, this thread really did get interesting.
    I realized awhile ago that some people don't think down the road about anything bad that's going to happen, and can't see it coming. They won't even believe it if you tell them it's coming until you can show them the actual "blood on the knife". I'm not saying I understand everything, but some of these things do seem sort of common sense or obvious.

    I'm beginning to conclude that being a Ni-dom means constantly considering all of the possibilities and what would happen with each, kind of like a choose your own adventure book. It's part of the reason why I can't stand people not communicating with me or giving me some kind of information to work with. It's also why I seem to need to have some way to narrow down the possibilities or I can't focus in on what I need to in practicality.

    I think maybe non Ni people are focussing their attention on other aspects of life that I am completely oblivious to and routinely miss. They are just as incredulous that I don't see that kind of stuff, which is so very obvious to them.

    Would you say that Ni is a "look down the road" function? If so, I think this tendancy manifests itself in human systems with Fe users Ni people and maybe with other kinds of systems for Fi user Ni people, but I don't know.

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