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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    My husband is INFJ and he freely uses the F word all day long, for a variety of meanings, depending on tone and inflection. It is a real art he has perfected.
    I'd agree.

    Emotions are cathartic and require thoughtful examination to adequately employ, as most of the "profound" ones arrive with a battery of peripheral intellectual luggage.

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    Hang on... I know that F's are supposed to be fluffy but I also expect them to have worse temperaments than a T!

    If someone blows up a lot I usually take that as a sign of someone being an F. Ts don't tend to have hot temperaments really IMO.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    Hang on... I know that F's are supposed to be fluffy but I also expect them to have worse temperaments than a T!

    If someone blows up a lot I usually take that as a sign of someone being an F. Ts don't tend to have hot temperaments really IMO.
    True, T's tend to be creative and obscure with their insults and it takes a clever F to catch on.
    Time is a delicate mistress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jen View Post
    True, T's tend to be creative and obscure with their insults and it takes a clever F to catch on.
    Usually for an F to feel insulted, they have to take something as a personal attack, regardless of weather or not it was intended to be such. When Ts insult it's rarely the cheap emotional jab that Fs know so well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalWounds View Post
    Usually for an F to feel insulted, they have to take something as a personal attack, regardless of weather or not it was intended to be such. When Ts insult it's rarely the cheap emotional jab that Fs know so well.
    True. So what type are prone to offering these cheap emotion jabs you speak of? I will say it would be so much easier to get at me, than at my husband. He has that water off a ducks back approach that I wish I possessed. Well anyway I'm working on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jen View Post
    True. So what type are prone to offering these cheap emotion jabs you speak of? I will say it would be so much easier to get at me, than at my husband. He has that water off a ducks back approach that I wish I possessed. Well anyway I'm working on it.
    ESFP- The best at quick, simple deep jabs.

    ENFP- The best large scale, complicated attacks that effectively break people down.

    I'm the same way, I usually just shrug off emotional attacks, the reasoning being that they must not have the mental ability to actually compete with me, so they break down to the simplest, default human response to conflict. (Yes I know this sounds conceited, but more often than not, it's the truth)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalWounds View Post
    ESFP- The best at quick, simple deep jabs.

    ENFP- The best large scale, complicated attacks that effectively break people down.

    I'm the same way, I usually just shrug off emotional attacks, the reasoning being that they must not have the mental ability to actually compete with me, so they break down to the simplest, default human response to conflict. (Yes I know this sounds conceited, but more often than not, it's the truth)
    So what about male vs female? I've known T women that were easier to get to than their male counterparts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jen View Post
    True, T's tend to be creative and obscure with their insults and it takes a clever F to catch on.
    This, among other things, is why I think my M-I-L is a T. She can insult me and I won't figure out I've been insulted for 30 minutes or more. But she has one of the most explosive tempers I've ever seen. And she blows up frequently, like full-blown temper tantrums complete with yelling, cursing, and slamming things around on a near-daily basis. I honestly can't even imagine the kind of energy it must take. I am totally capable of flying off the handle, but it happens infrequently and I'm much more likely to be snarky than explosive.

    I just don't think temper is a T/F thing. It's something seperate and your environment growing up can influence it as well as your level of emotional maturity and the effectiveness of your coping skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jen View Post
    So what about male vs female? I've known T women that were easier to get to than their male counterparts.
    That doesn't surprise me, because all stereotypes aside, women tend to me more emotional than men, sometimes unpredictably so. Some of the best insults I have ever been witness to were from female Ts. The most scathing attack is 95% T with that barley noticeable 5% emotion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jen View Post
    True. So what type are prone to offering these cheap emotion jabs you speak of? I will say it would be so much easier to get at me, than at my husband. He has that water off a ducks back approach that I wish I possessed. Well anyway I'm working on it.
    I've a similar nonchalance; very little gets to me.

    I'd imagine that all types - when properly stimulated - share the possibility for emotional outburst; context seems the primary variable.

    For example, my wife can (occasionally) rend my stoicism with little effort - certainly to the extent that I'd respond with an emotionally-charged behavior. Her precision needn't be specific and is usually something simple (nagging/not responding to my nagging ).

    Conversely, the same essential formula/line of wording from (very probably) most anyone else in my life would elicit a dampened emotional response and/or outright dismissal.

    The central negotiator seems familiarity - the closer we are, the deeper the wound, I find.

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